How many years into the future is it reasonable to expect that MySQL will remain a recommended database server for "production use" along with MariaDB now that the Foundation has switched to using MariaDB internally? I know that MariaDB claims to be drop in compatible with MySQL, but the list of variances seems to be slowly growing. References... * Compatibility - [[mw:Compatibility]] * MariaDB support? - [[mw:Topic:R1hqki3kaytylml4]] * https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/
Other than [[mw:Compatibility]] on mediawiki.org is there anywhere else (wiki pages, Phabricator tasks/tags, etc.) that I should check for technical roadmap information before emailing wikitech-l?
Thank you! Michael
We have no plans of dropping support at the moment, though we had some discussions about raising the minimum required versions (which are ridiculously low at the moment).
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Hogan, Michael C < Michael.C.Hogan2@boeing.com> wrote:
How many years into the future is it reasonable to expect that MySQL will remain a recommended database server for "production use" along with MariaDB now that the Foundation has switched to using MariaDB internally? I know that MariaDB claims to be drop in compatible with MySQL, but the list of variances seems to be slowly growing. References...
- Compatibility - [[mw:Compatibility]]
- MariaDB support? - [[mw:Topic:R1hqki3kaytylml4]]
- https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/
Other than [[mw:Compatibility]] on mediawiki.org is there anywhere else (wiki pages, Phabricator tasks/tags, etc.) that I should check for technical roadmap information before emailing wikitech-l?
Thank you! Michael
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On Thursday, October 19, 2017, Hogan, Michael C Michael.C.Hogan2@boeing.com wrote:
How many years into the future is it reasonable to expect that MySQL will
remain a recommended database server for "production use" along with MariaDB now that the Foundation has switched to using MariaDB internally? I know that MariaDB claims to be drop in compatible with MySQL, but the list of variances seems to be slowly growing. References...
- Compatibility - [[mw:Compatibility]]
- MariaDB support? - [[mw:Topic:R1hqki3kaytylml4]]
- https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/
Other than [[mw:Compatibility]] on mediawiki.org is there anywhere else
(wiki pages, Phabricator tasks/tags, etc.) that I should check for technical roadmap information before emailing wikitech-l?
Thank you! Michael
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Mediawiki usually doesnt use new exotic db features. I would be shocked if we dropped support for mysql at any point in the forseeable future unless mysql becomes totally abandoned.
-- brian
How many years into the future is it reasonable to expect that MySQL will
remain a recommended database server for "production use" along with MariaDB now that the Foundation has switched to using MariaDB internally
Given a migration back to MySQL is not out of the table for us WMF DBAs, and I will complain if we drop compatibility; I would say both MariaDB and MySQL will probably be supported for as long as the databases are or even more- we just "upgraded" the requirements from 5.0 to 5.5 for newer mw versions.
but the list of variances seems to be slowly growing
That is annoying, and even more worrying to me is MariaDB roadmap about free software/lock-in: https://mariadb.com/bsl-faq-mariadb https://mariadb.com/projects-using-bsl-11
is there anywhere else (wiki pages, Phabricator tasks/tags, etc.) that I
should check for technical roadmap information before emailing wikitech-l?
If you are in charge of a mediawiki installation and want to know the ops/db maintenance side of things, get in contact with me on phabricator; I would be glad to share experiences.
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Hogan, Michael C < Michael.C.Hogan2@boeing.com> wrote:
How many years into the future is it reasonable to expect that MySQL will remain a recommended database server for "production use" along with MariaDB now that the Foundation has switched to using MariaDB internally? I know that MariaDB claims to be drop in compatible with MySQL, but the list of variances seems to be slowly growing. References...
- Compatibility - [[mw:Compatibility]]
- MariaDB support? - [[mw:Topic:R1hqki3kaytylml4]]
- https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/
Other than [[mw:Compatibility]] on mediawiki.org is there anywhere else (wiki pages, Phabricator tasks/tags, etc.) that I should check for technical roadmap information before emailing wikitech-l?
Thank you! Michael
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