Anthere asked how much money we need to run the system for the rest of the year, so we took a look at the servers we have and at the growth we have seen over the last years.
The results can be seen at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_provisional_budget
and I invite eveyone to have a look at it and provide comments.
Regards,
JeLuF
OK, I give up. I can't figure out where some of the default user preferences are hidden.
Quite a few options have explicit default values (set in Language.php). These are: quickbar, underline, hover, cols, rows, searchlimit, contextlines, contextchars, skin, math, rcdays, rclimit, highlightbroken, stubthreshold, previewontop, editsection, editsectiononrightclick, showtoc, showtoolbar, and date.
But where do you set the initial default values for show/hide minor edits in RC? I think there are some others missing there too.
Thanks for any tips,
Tannin (Tony Wilson)
Tony wrote:
OK, I give up. I can't figure out where some of the default user preferences are hidden.
Quite a few options have explicit default values (set in Language.php). These are: quickbar, underline, hover, cols, rows, searchlimit, contextlines, contextchars, skin, math, rcdays, rclimit, highlightbroken, stubthreshold, previewontop, editsection, editsectiononrightclick, showtoc, showtoolbar, and date.
But where do you set the initial default values for show/hide minor edits in RC? I think there are some others missing there too.
Same place. If there's not a listed default it defaults to 0.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:25 +0200, Jens Frank wrote:
Anthere asked how much money we need to run the system for the rest of the year, so we took a look at the servers we have and at the growth we have seen over the last years.
The results can be seen at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_provisional_budget
and I invite eveyone to have a look at it and provide comments.
I've added my opinion that the NFS-related problems are really a software problem, similar with the missing MySQL load balancing. The more money&hardware the better of course, but there are situations where the hardware-only approach simply fails or hits a hard wall. I think we're in such a situation.
This doesn't mean that i think we don't need money, but the decision on what to spend it on is a hard one with such a complex system. At some stage bounties for specific important software development tasks might buy more performance than heaps of hardware waiting for better software.
My Coda tests went very well so far. I've moved about 70% of my home dir to Coda for testing. I plan to do some wiki stress testing locally next, if that goes well i'd like to run test.wikipedia.org from coda next (the server is set up already on zwinger).
Gabriel Wicke
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 02:25:54PM +0200, Gabriel Wicke wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:25 +0200, Jens Frank wrote:
Anthere asked how much money we need to run the system for the rest of the year, so we took a look at the servers we have and at the growth we have seen over the last years.
The results can be seen at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_provisional_budget
and I invite eveyone to have a look at it and provide comments.
I've added my opinion that the NFS-related problems are really a software problem, similar with the missing MySQL load balancing. The more money&hardware the better of course, but there are situations where the hardware-only approach simply fails or hits a hard wall. I think we're in such a situation.
This doesn't mean that i think we don't need money, but the decision on what to spend it on is a hard one with such a complex system. At some stage bounties for specific important software development tasks might buy more performance than heaps of hardware waiting for better software.
My Coda tests went very well so far. I've moved about 70% of my home dir to Coda for testing. I plan to do some wiki stress testing locally next, if that goes well i'd like to run test.wikipedia.org from coda next (the server is set up already on zwinger).
I've reworded some of your additions. I totally agree that NFS will not scale and lacks features we need.
But even with Coda, zwinger is too small to be used as both second DB slave and media server and backup download server. It's a 1U box and it will not be possible to add more disks to it. DB size is 100G, only 20G are left free.
So while agreeing that we need alternatives to NFS, I do not agree that we'll be able to run all those services on zwinger for another 6 months.
Regards,
JeLuF
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