Hi,

I have no logs of any secret Wikimedia channels/lists.  I think your reply is addressed to the wrong person, Aryeh was mentioning something about Wikimedia secret channels earlier.  I am trying to fix my mail settings, I apologize for the confusion for my thread formatting.  Please bear with me, this is the most trouble I have ever had with mail settings, I knew I was dumb but it is ridiculous, I am just going to subscribe to individual emails from now on (after this digest reply) as the newsreader wasn't working for me properly.

cheers, Jamie

----- Original Message -----From  Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org Date  Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:44:54 -0700 To  wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject  Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development On 9/11/10 2:48 PM, Jamie Morken wrote:

Doing the same on my log of the secret channel gives 100903 00:03:40, meaning it has roughly the same traffic level as #wikimedia-tech over that period.  Anyone who hangs out there can tell you that almost nothing there is secret.  I can't speak for private-l, because I'm not on it.

Which channel are you talking about? Regarding private-l, my understanding is that that list was originally set up to deal with real-life wikistalking issues, which obviously requires privacy to discuss. Please correct me if that is incorrect. Ryan Kaldari