The Bostonians nearly threw my tea in the harbor about the new upload form. :-) When do we expect it to go live?
--Jimbo
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From: Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:00:22 -0700 To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: [bhorrocks@npg.org.uk: National Portrait Gallery images on Wikipedia website]
All the more reason for us to get the new upload form up and running, so that people have to say what the source for an image is up front, instead of us chasing them down after the fact to find out where they got it. What are we waiting for at this point?
--Michael Snow
Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
It would please me greatly to be able to respond that their claims are preposterous. Shall we research this carefully?
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From: "Bernard Horrocks" bhorrocks@npg.org.uk Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:23:33 +0100 To: jwales@bomis.com Subject: National Portrait Gallery images on Wikipedia website
Dear Sir,
We notice you have a number of images on your website (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Denmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Denmark ) which are of portraits in the collection of the National Portrait Gallery, London.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
As we do not appear to have licensed copies of these portraits for use on your website, we wondered whether you would let us know the source from which you obtained the reproductions.
All photographs, scans, text and other material on the National Portrait Gallery's website are protected by international copyright laws. Unauthorised reproduction of such content may be an infringement of such laws.
I look forward to hearing from you regarding this matter.
Yours sincerely,
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Brion Vibber wrote:
Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
The Bostonians nearly threw my tea in the harbor about the new upload form. :-) When do we expect it to go live?
When someone codes it.
Patches are welcome.
I was told in Boston that it's in CVS already but has not been made live. Was that report in error?
--Jimbo
Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
The Bostonians nearly threw my tea in the harbor about the new upload form. :-) When do we expect it to go live?
When someone codes it.
I was told in Boston that it's in CVS already but has not been made live. Was that report in error?
I can't find it. All I can find is an alternate mode which removes (!) the "I affirm that the copyright holder of this file agrees to license it under the terms of the Wikipedia copyright" checkbox and adds these boxes:
Copyright status: [ ] Source: [ ]
Is that what you're referring to? I was under the impression there's some big fancy totally redone form that's been proposed.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
I can't find it. All I can find is an alternate mode which removes (!) the "I affirm that the copyright holder of this file agrees to license it under the terms of the Wikipedia copyright" checkbox and adds these boxes:
Copyright status: [ ] Source: [ ]
Is that what you're referring to? I was under the impression there's some big fancy totally redone form that's been proposed.
Hmm, my impression is the same as yours, but it is likely that this is what the report I got was referring to.
O.k., so, it sounds like you're right, we need patches. Does anyone know where the "big fany totally redone form" proposal is, so that someone can code to that spec?
--Jimbo
Jimmy-
O.k., so, it sounds like you're right, we need patches. Does anyone know where the "big fany totally redone form" proposal is, so that someone can code to that spec?
A big totally redone form proposal is part of the Wikimedia Commons idea: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Uploadform1.png http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Uploadform2.png
This proposal seeks to provide a simple and quick solution for photos by Wikipedians while requiring all the necessary information for photos from outside sources.
Regards,
Erik
Erik Moeller wrote:
Jimmy-
O.k., so, it sounds like you're right, we need patches. Does anyone know where the "big fany totally redone form" proposal is, so that someone can code to that spec?
A big totally redone form proposal is part of the Wikimedia Commons idea: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Uploadform1.png http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Uploadform2.png
This proposal seeks to provide a simple and quick solution for photos by Wikipedians while requiring all the necessary information for photos from outside sources.
If the claim is that something is already in the public domain there should be no need to "choose a licence". The "choice" to put something in the public domain is only menaingful for one's own works, or for works over which one has acquired full rights as by purchase or inheritance.
The recent matter of the National Portrait Gallery pictures revolves around whether those images are copyrightable.
Ec
O.k., so, it sounds like you're right, we need patches. Does anyone know where the "big fany totally redone form" proposal is, so that someone can code to that spec?
Hi all,
you can find my proposal of the new upload form as HTML-Files here:
http://www.ru-info.de/upload_neu.htm
If no licence is specified the uploader gets the licence thing explained:
http://www.ru-info.de/upload_lizenz.htm
and the entries within the form should be automatically added to the image-page:
http://www.ru-info.de/upload_ergebnis.htm
If I would be able to code them, I would have done it long, but unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to do this.
The existing improved Upload-form at test.wikipedia does in my opinion meet our needs only far, as uploaders can ignore to make entries as easy as now. The biggest problem I see with the current upload form is not not users forgetting to add license information rather than their unawareness of types of licenses and the importance of licensing informations with uploaded images.
Andre
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