On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 02:17:12PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Uh, that's expensive, I get my de. domains for 11,- euro per year. OK, that's a complicated situation. I'd suggest setting up a weekly-updated mirror at wikipedia.is and redirecting all edit-requests to the wikipedia.org

Do Svavarl have the same situation for his own server? I.e. does it cost him more if non-is computers connect to his server? If not, we should consider using his offer for a proxy which would proxy EVERY request to is.wikipedia.org via his server. I'm sure gwicke who has set up the squid can deliver more help about that issue. We had discussions about moving some wikipedias to different locations than the current one but for the admins it's easier to maintain only one server-farm. ciao, tom -- == Weblinks == * http://shop.wikipedia.org - WikiReader Internet zu kaufen * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:TomK32 * http://www.hammererlehen.de - Urlaub in Berchtesgaden

Hello. Sort of jumping in from nowhere, hope thats ok. You could also use an apache setup, and do proxypassing and caching. This is a bit random, but fwiw : No weekly updates - it requests docs as it needs them. Tweaking the cache settings would control your bandwidth usage - either force it to cache for ~1 week, or else check on each request if it needs to re-download the source. Assuming the original wikipedia site allows you to cache it's pages.... This would also let dynamic content be served from your .is domain (logged in users), although it would push the bandwidth usage of your "proxy" up quite a bit. A couple more apache config rules would tell it to redirect edit requests to the original. Although, technically, you might prefer to have these sent through your local domain, and have it act as a proxy. That way edits don't dump users at the .org site. I may have missed something, but I think from a vanilla apache setup, you can get this working with exactly no coding and only about 5-10 lines in the apache config. Quite neat really..... It does assume all the links in the html are relative and don't specify a domain in full, but that does appear to be the case from a quick scan. If they did exist, your users would end up back on the original .org site. I should also point out that I'm not taking about a proxy that would require anyone to tinker with their browser settings, nor would it work for anything other than the wikipedia site. - User requests www.wikipedia.is/something - Request arrives at www.wikipedia.is machine/apache - apache proxies the request to is.wikipedia.org/something - returns the result to user Obviously it would be a tad slower than going to the original site direct. Anyway.... I should also point out that the vast majority of people (namely, world minus geek) rarely pay the slightest attention to the url anyway - hence why you see search queries for domain names. But then, those people probably aren't on this list :) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 14:32 +0200, Thomas R. Koll wrote: If it's a reliable server and the offer is still valid, why not? To run a squid, port 80 needs to be unused though, or one has to do some iptable tricks to redirect wikipedia to another port. Apache would work as a proxy as well- but it doesn't support purging, so it couldn't cache. An account on the server would be necessary imo, otherwise maintaining the squid would be difficult. -- Gabriel Wicke _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Hi Ævar, if I understand it correctly you suggest setting up www.wikipedia.is and send all queries there to is.wikipedia.de.

So the traffic would still cost more because people end up at wikipedia.org but the most of the non-geeks will visit the site because its TLD is .is? Was that what you meant?

Regards Thomas

Having wikipedia.is would go down better with the Icelandic press than some .org domain due to reasons specified in the original message.