Hello all together,
some time ago, WMF started to re-organize into a new structure to focus on specific topics. Now, I think, the main tasks are done, so that I want to bring a (for me, and I think and hope for some others, too) very important topic back to the ToDo list: mobile editing.
In the past, the mobile web team (in which I mostly contributed, too) maintained the mobile wikitext editor in a very basic state, and the VisualEditor team maintained the VisualEditor for tablet users. Now, most people of the former mobile web team moved to the new vertical “Readership”, so I’m pretty sure, that the responsibility for all editing stuff on mobile isn’t in this team anymore (reading ≠ editing), so I think, that the new editing vertical maintains all the editing stuff, including mobile editing. Now I have some questions around this topic:
1. I’m missing MobileFrontend in the list of maintained extensions on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing ? Are there plans to move all editing features away from MobileFrontend, or is the editing code in MobileFrontend unmaintained now? How volunteers are able to contribute to the right place? What is the bigger image for editing code in mobile?
2. Is there a roadmap for the mobile VisualEditor? At the moment it’s only available for tablet users (which makes contributing on smartphones a bit hard, there is only a clean wikitext editor, see one of my next points). I know task T93325[1], is that meant to enable mobile VE on smartphones, too? What is the roadmap for it?
3. Are you planning to support a wikitext editor on mobile, too (Like a light WikiEditor)? At the moment, the wikitext editor in mobile is very very basic (basically without any feature). I submitted a change[2] to enable some rally basic features to it, which, technically seems to be merge able, but no-one of editing reviews it, neither it’s possible for a volunteer (me :)) to find out, if such a feature matches the global vision for mobile editing.
4. And the last point (any maybe the most important one): Who is the person (or the group of person) I can contact for mobile related editing things? In the time of the former mobile web team I have known the persons I can ping on irc, e-mail or via mailing lists, now I’m a bit confused, who is responsible for mobile editing, it’s like a gray veil :)
It would be great to have these points answered :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93325
[2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194945/
Have a nice weekend!
Best,
Florian
Florian, just wanted to acknowledge receipt of the message. Good questions, and we'll be getting back with a response. Not that one could easily forget the importance of this, but I created a tracking task on this:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96742
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Florian Schmidt < florian.schmidt.welzow@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello all together,
some time ago, WMF started to re-organize into a new structure to focus on specific topics. Now, I think, the main tasks are done, so that I want to bring a (for me, and I think and hope for some others, too) very important topic back to the ToDo list: mobile editing.
In the past, the mobile web team (in which I mostly contributed, too) maintained the mobile wikitext editor in a very basic state, and the VisualEditor team maintained the VisualEditor for tablet users. Now, most people of the former mobile web team moved to the new vertical “Readership”, so I’m pretty sure, that the responsibility for all editing stuff on mobile isn’t in this team anymore (reading ≠ editing), so I think, that the new editing vertical maintains all the editing stuff, including mobile editing. Now I have some questions around this topic:
I’m missing MobileFrontend in the list of maintained extensions onhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing ? Are there plans to move all editing features away from MobileFrontend, or is the editing code in MobileFrontend unmaintained now? How volunteers are able to contribute to the right place? What is the bigger image for editing code in mobile?
Is there a roadmap for the mobile VisualEditor? At the moment it’sonly available for tablet users (which makes contributing on smartphones a bit hard, there is only a clean wikitext editor, see one of my next points). I know task T93325[1], is that meant to enable mobile VE on smartphones, too? What is the roadmap for it?
Are you planning to support a wikitext editor on mobile, too (Likea light WikiEditor)? At the moment, the wikitext editor in mobile is very very basic (basically without any feature). I submitted a change[2] to enable some rally basic features to it, which, technically seems to be merge able, but no-one of editing reviews it, neither it’s possible for a volunteer (me :)) to find out, if such a feature matches the global vision for mobile editing.
And the last point (any maybe the most important one): Who is theperson (or the group of person) I can contact for mobile related editing things? In the time of the former mobile web team I have known the persons I can ping on irc, e-mail or via mailing lists, now I’m a bit confused, who is responsible for mobile editing, it’s like a gray veil :)
It would be great to have these points answered :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93325
[2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194945/
Have a nice weekend!
Best,
Florian
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Following up on this message, people from Editing and Reading are going to meet to discuss basic thinking on roadmap plus patch patchset practices. It's still very much a preliminary stages sort of meeting. I've asked for Florian to be invited in hopes of getting a volunteer perspective from an active volunteer developer in this discussion.
Florian, a question that arose was whether you had any interest in submitting patches for the desktop mode of the site for editing as well?
-Adam
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Florian, just wanted to acknowledge receipt of the message. Good questions, and we'll be getting back with a response. Not that one could easily forget the importance of this, but I created a tracking task on this:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96742
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Florian Schmidt < florian.schmidt.welzow@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello all together,
some time ago, WMF started to re-organize into a new structure to focus on specific topics. Now, I think, the main tasks are done, so that I want to bring a (for me, and I think and hope for some others, too) very important topic back to the ToDo list: mobile editing.
In the past, the mobile web team (in which I mostly contributed, too) maintained the mobile wikitext editor in a very basic state, and the VisualEditor team maintained the VisualEditor for tablet users. Now, most people of the former mobile web team moved to the new vertical “Readership”, so I’m pretty sure, that the responsibility for all editing stuff on mobile isn’t in this team anymore (reading ≠ editing), so I think, that the new editing vertical maintains all the editing stuff, including mobile editing. Now I have some questions around this topic:
I’m missing MobileFrontend in the list of maintained extensionson https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing ? Are there plans to move all editing features away from MobileFrontend, or is the editing code in MobileFrontend unmaintained now? How volunteers are able to contribute to the right place? What is the bigger image for editing code in mobile?
Is there a roadmap for the mobile VisualEditor? At the momentit’s only available for tablet users (which makes contributing on smartphones a bit hard, there is only a clean wikitext editor, see one of my next points). I know task T93325[1], is that meant to enable mobile VE on smartphones, too? What is the roadmap for it?
Are you planning to support a wikitext editor on mobile, too(Like a light WikiEditor)? At the moment, the wikitext editor in mobile is very very basic (basically without any feature). I submitted a change[2] to enable some rally basic features to it, which, technically seems to be merge able, but no-one of editing reviews it, neither it’s possible for a volunteer (me :)) to find out, if such a feature matches the global vision for mobile editing.
And the last point (any maybe the most important one): Who is theperson (or the group of person) I can contact for mobile related editing things? In the time of the former mobile web team I have known the persons I can ping on irc, e-mail or via mailing lists, now I’m a bit confused, who is responsible for mobile editing, it’s like a gray veil :)
It would be great to have these points answered :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93325
[2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194945/
Have a nice weekend!
Best,
Florian
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Hi Adam,
thanks for bringing this back to the list :) I hope we can manage it to come together to get a bit more clarity into the dark.
To your question: I think, basically, yes. I see one movement since the reorg (for me personally), that I play around with things on desktop (mostly in the reading/design thingy bingy, not really sure, what area that is ;)), so maybe I will go to play with VE, too.
Best, Florian
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Adam Baso Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juli 2015 21:16 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] Plans for mobile editing, VisualEditor [and mobile contributions]
Following up on this message, people from Editing and Reading are going to meet to discuss basic thinking on roadmap plus patch patchset practices. It's still very much a preliminary stages sort of meeting. I've asked for Florian to be invited in hopes of getting a volunteer perspective from an active volunteer developer in this discussion.
Florian, a question that arose was whether you had any interest in submitting patches for the desktop mode of the site for editing as well?
-Adam
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Florian, just wanted to acknowledge receipt of the message. Good questions, and we'll be getting back with a response. Not that one could easily forget the importance of this, but I created a tracking task on this:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96742
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Florian Schmidt < florian.schmidt.welzow@t-online.de> wrote:
Hello all together,
some time ago, WMF started to re-organize into a new structure to focus on specific topics. Now, I think, the main tasks are done, so that I want to bring a (for me, and I think and hope for some others, too) very important topic back to the ToDo list: mobile editing.
In the past, the mobile web team (in which I mostly contributed, too) maintained the mobile wikitext editor in a very basic state, and the VisualEditor team maintained the VisualEditor for tablet users. Now, most people of the former mobile web team moved to the new vertical “Readership”, so I’m pretty sure, that the responsibility for all editing stuff on mobile isn’t in this team anymore (reading ≠ editing), so I think, that the new editing vertical maintains all the editing stuff, including mobile editing. Now I have some questions around this topic:
I’m missing MobileFrontend in the list of maintained extensionson https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing ? Are there plans to move all editing features away from MobileFrontend, or is the editing code in MobileFrontend unmaintained now? How volunteers are able to contribute to the right place? What is the bigger image for editing code in mobile?
Is there a roadmap for the mobile VisualEditor? At the momentit’s only available for tablet users (which makes contributing on smartphones a bit hard, there is only a clean wikitext editor, see one of my next points). I know task T93325[1], is that meant to enable mobile VE on smartphones, too? What is the roadmap for it?
Are you planning to support a wikitext editor on mobile, too(Like a light WikiEditor)? At the moment, the wikitext editor in mobile is very very basic (basically without any feature). I submitted a change[2] to enable some rally basic features to it, which, technically seems to be merge able, but no-one of editing reviews it, neither it’s possible for a volunteer (me :)) to find out, if such a feature matches the global vision for mobile editing.
And the last point (any maybe the most important one): Who is theperson (or the group of person) I can contact for mobile related editing things? In the time of the former mobile web team I have known the persons I can ping on irc, e-mail or via mailing lists, now I’m a bit confused, who is responsible for mobile editing, it’s like a gray veil :)
It would be great to have these points answered :)
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93325
[2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/194945/
Have a nice weekend!
Best,
Florian
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