New subject: Fwd: [Foundation-l] misleading advice on oversight on wikizine

19 Feb 2008

Oversight is being overused where deletion would be appropriate when
deletion isn't possible ...

Any progress on single-edit deletion?

- d.

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From: Dmcdevit &lt;dmcdevit(a)cox.net&gt;
Date: 19 Feb 2008 14:10
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] misleading advice on oversight on wikizine
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;

Thomas Dalton wrote:
...
  I disagree. There is an increased need for oversight
(it's marginal,
 though). Before, when one of the 3 situations you quote came up we had
 a choice between oversight and simple deletion. Simple deletion was
 find in the less sensitive cases. Now, for large pages, that option is
 gone, so oversight will need to be used in every case, that results in
 a greater need for oversight.

There is no room for disagreement here. Oversight is an extreme tool
governed by a Board-supported policy on its use, which involved
immediate loss of privileges for misuse. Oversight is not simply
deletion of a single revision, it is the removal of that revision
entirely from the history so that not even any administrator can see it
or even see a log that it was done, and it can only be reversed with the
help of a developer. We can certainly say that we hope that
single-revision deletion becomes easier with new features added to
MediaWiki in the future, but it is inappropriate to suggest that
oversight can fulfill this role.

Dominic

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