I have installed mailman on the new server to server the wikipedia lists. More specifically, someone requested a list "francais-l" be added to the nupedia domain, but I found that a list by that name is already in use for Nupedia's purposes, so I made it francais-l@wikipedia.org instead. So, we now have the ability to make any wikipedia lists point to wikipedia.org...
So, my question is this: On the old scheme, we prefixed the list name with 'wiki' to indicate that it was for wikipedia. As I copy the old lists to the new server, should I convert the list-names as well? I think not, but I thought I should ask.
Also, are these the only wikipedia lists? I think they are.
Intlwiki-l Wikitech-l Wikipedia-l WikiNL-l
And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and the french list is francais-l (though this new list is not yet public). Should we go with a standardized naming scheme on the language-specific (or is it country-specific?) lists. Should I change francais-l to wikiFR-l?
Jason
On 10/24/02 2:48 PM, "Jason Richey" jasonr@bomis.com wrote:
I have installed mailman on the new server to server the wikipedia lists. More specifically, someone requested a list "francais-l" be added to the nupedia domain, but I found that a list by that name is already in use for Nupedia's purposes, so I made it francais-l@wikipedia.org instead. So, we now have the ability to make any wikipedia lists point to wikipedia.org...
So, my question is this: On the old scheme, we prefixed the list name with 'wiki' to indicate that it was for wikipedia. As I copy the old lists to the new server, should I convert the list-names as well? I think not, but I thought I should ask.
Also, are these the only wikipedia lists? I think they are.
Intlwiki-l Wikitech-l Wikipedia-l WikiNL-l
And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and the french list is francais-l (though this new list is not yet public). Should we go with a standardized naming scheme on the language-specific (or is it country-specific?) lists. Should I change francais-l to wikiFR-l?
The most important thing is to think about moving to a BBS-style system. Naming conventions aren't terribly important, but I think the "francais-l@wikipedia.org" convention is nice.
It's certainly better to have the wikipedia lists have wikipedia addresses.
Jason Richey wrote:
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And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and
I chose the name WikiNL-l for that list because in the same style which as the other lists (Inlwiki-l and Wikitech-l). If for each the format WikiXX-l is used you get a shorter and easy e-mail address whit the same format. (not a long like "nederlands-l@wikipedia.org"), By its use of the language code it simple to the link between that list and the url of that wikipedia. And especially, if you want in a text to refer to the maillinglist it is uglier to for saying "english-l" or "nederlands-l" this whereas something like as WikiNL-l sounds better.
I say, make the lists in the format wikiXX-l and give those wikipedias control over them. Then the can make what want them of it.
Giskart
Jason Richey wrote:
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And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and
I chose the name WikiNL-l for that list because in the same style which as the other lists (Inlwiki-l and Wikitech-l). If for each the format WikiXX-l is used you get a shorter and easy e-mail address whit the same format. (not a long like "nederlands-l@wikipedia.org"), By its use of the language code it simple to the link between that list and the url of that wikipedia. And especially, if you want in a text to refer to the maillinglist it is uglier to for saying "english-l" or "nederlands-l" this whereas something like as WikiNL-l sounds better.
I say, make the lists in the format wikiXX-l and give those wikipedias control over them. Then the can make what want them of it.
Giskart
Jason Richey wrote:
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And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and
I chose the name WikiNL-l for that list because in the same style which as the other lists (Inlwiki-l and Wikitech-l). If for each the format WikiXX-l is used you get a shorter and easy e-mail address whit the same format. (not a long like "nederlands-l@wikipedia.org"), By its use of the language code it simple to the link between that list and the url of that wikipedia. And especially, if you want in a text to refer to the maillinglist it is uglier to for saying "english-l" or "nederlands-l" this whereas something like as WikiNL-l sounds better.
I say, make the lists in the format wikiXX-l and give those wikipedias control over them. Then the can make what want them of it.
Giskart
"Jason Richey" skribis:
Also, are these the only wikipedia lists? I think they are.
Intlwiki-l Wikitech-l Wikipedia-l WikiNL-l
Deutsch-l@nupedia.com was originally used by the german translation team of Nupedia, but now is used by the german wikipedists. I think, it should be converted, too.
It would be nice if also the esperanto-wiki could get a list (know we are (not) using a yahoogroups-list).
Paul
I've had a few responses, and I think this is my plan:
I'll name lists as (in the case of the french list) wikiFR-l, where FR is the language code of the list. Then, I can optionally add an alias that directs mail sent to "francais-l@wikipedia.org" through the list as well. Only the official name, "wikiFR-l@wikipedia.org" would be mentioned in the list settings, but people who are accustomed to sending mail to deutsch-l@nupedia.com may be more apt to send to deutsch-l@wikipedia.org than to wikiDE@wikipedia.org...
Jason
Jason Richey wrote:
I have installed mailman on the new server to server the wikipedia lists. More specifically, someone requested a list "francais-l" be added to the nupedia domain, but I found that a list by that name is already in use for Nupedia's purposes, so I made it francais-l@wikipedia.org instead. So, we now have the ability to make any wikipedia lists point to wikipedia.org...
So, my question is this: On the old scheme, we prefixed the list name with 'wiki' to indicate that it was for wikipedia. As I copy the old lists to the new server, should I convert the list-names as well? I think not, but I thought I should ask.
Also, are these the only wikipedia lists? I think they are.
Intlwiki-l Wikitech-l Wikipedia-l WikiNL-l
And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and the french list is francais-l (though this new list is not yet public). Should we go with a standardized naming scheme on the language-specific (or is it country-specific?) lists. Should I change francais-l to wikiFR-l?
Jason
-- "Jason C. Richey" jasonr@bomis.com
Jason Richey wrote:
Intlwiki-l Wikitech-l Wikipedia-l WikiNL-l
And I think this begs another question. The Dutch list is WikiNL, and the french list is francais-l (though this new list is not yet public). Should we go with a standardized naming scheme on the language-specific (or is it country-specific?) lists. Should I change francais-l to wikiFR-l?
I think consistency is good. I think we should not change the names of the existing lists. I think that we should ultimately make wikipedia-l@nupedia.com an alias for the real and preferred name of the list, which would be wikipedia-l@wikipedia.com.
--Jimbo
Jimmy Wales wrote:
I think consistency is good. I think we should not change the names of the existing lists. I think that we should ultimately make wikipedia-l@nupedia.com an alias for the real and preferred name of the list, which would be wikipedia-l@wikipedia.com.
You surely mean wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org?
Augh, yes of course! Everything .org is the wave of the future.
Now I have to teach my fingers.
Magnus Manske wrote:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
I think consistency is good. I think we should not change the names of the existing lists. I think that we should ultimately make wikipedia-l@nupedia.com an alias for the real and preferred name of the list, which would be wikipedia-l@wikipedia.com.
You surely mean wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org