When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
- Trevor
Hoi, Where can this PDF be found ? Thanks, GerardM
On 5 April 2011 23:44, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org wrote:
When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
- Trevor
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OK, not an attachment...
File:Narayam-proposal.pdf File:Narayam-proposal-annotated.pdf
- Trevor
On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
- Trevor
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And by that I meant...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal.pdf http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal-annotated.pdf
(I need to stop clicking send so fast... waiting a minute... OK, this one looks good.)
- Trevor
On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
OK, not an attachment...
File:Narayam-proposal.pdf File:Narayam-proposal-annotated.pdf
- Trevor
On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote:
When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
- Trevor
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.orgwrote:
And by that I meant...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal.pdf http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal-annotated.pdf
Some nice thoughts; I definitely like having a more compact trigger at the top of the page (see page 4 of the annotated PDF).
Another thing to consider is making input methods available separately from content or UI language: we have a lot of mixed-language wikis, and not everybody's going to want to switch their preferences (or figure out 'uselang=' URL magic) just to type a little bit. Even for single-language wikis like the Wikipedias, you might want to say type a name in a language you know, on a wiki that's in another language you know.
This could be a case for a user preference, like enabling of additional input methods in full-blown operating systems: usually if you're typing in a language that doesn't use input methods, they'll never get in your way but you can select some languages and now you get a status bar icon or such where you can pick from your options. Would benefit from global preferences, too!
While we're in there, I've added Esperanto conversion rules to Narayam (trunk r85504) -- it seems to work really nice! I'd strongly consider dropping the old server-side conversion system for this if it's ready to roll by 1.18.
(Making quick notes on bugs 3615 and 21781 to this effect.)
-- brion
On Wed, April 6, 2011 3:26 am, Trevor Parscal wrote:
And by that I meant...
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal.pdf http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Narayam-proposal-annotated.pdf
The positioning of IME looks good. It does not make much space and showing it on hover of the icon is nice.
Placing a select box inside a dropdown div does not look good to me(page 5 of the pdf). That adds one extra level of user interaction. Can't we simlify this by listing available input methods with a radio button in the dropdown div itself? Some thing like this:
[icon] [personal tools] +-----------------------+ | Select an Input Tool: | | O [Input Method 1] | | O [Input Method 2] | | O [Input Method 3] | | O [Disable-Ctrl+ M] | | [Help Link] | +-----------------------+
Thanks Santhosh
On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote:
Placing a select box inside a dropdown div does not look good to me(page 5 of the pdf). That adds one extra level of user interaction. Can't we simlify this by listing available input methods with a radio button in the dropdown div itself? Some thing like this:
[icon] [personal tools] +-----------------------+ | Select an Input Tool: | | O [Input Method 1] | | O [Input Method 2] | | O [Input Method 3] | | O [Disable-Ctrl+ M] | | [Help Link] | +-----------------------+
Given how few options there are, this seems like a great idea.
- Trevor
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Apr 5, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote:
Placing a select box inside a dropdown div does not look good to me(page
5
of the pdf). That adds one extra level of user interaction. Can't we simlify this by listing available input methods with a radio button in
the
dropdown div itself? Some thing like this:
[icon] [personal tools] +-----------------------+ | Select an Input Tool: | | O [Input Method 1] | | O [Input Method 2] | | O [Input Method 3] | | O [Disable-Ctrl+ M] | | [Help Link] | +-----------------------+
Given how few options there are, this seems like a great idea.
I like Trevor's and Santhosh's recommendations.
Nice to see new Esperanto scheme added.
On 6 April 2011 00:44, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org wrote:
When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
Could you make a similar proposal for the WebFonts extension? Input methods and web fonts are quite related.
-Niklas
I will see if I can get some time dedicated to this. If/when I do, I will probably have some more questions about the extension - are you a good person to contact about it?
- Trevor
On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Niklas Laxström wrote:
On 6 April 2011 00:44, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org wrote:
When Roan Kattouw reviewed, and then rewrote most of the Narayam extension, I reviewed his code, and found many things about the user interface that could be, and need to be improved. I have both some observations and some suggestions, expressed in the attached PDF.
The exact design I'm proposing isn't a requirement, but hopefully is provides a starting point for a way to get this extension's user interface where we need it to be.
Could you make a similar proposal for the WebFonts extension? Input methods and web fonts are quite related.
-Niklas
-- Niklas Laxström
Santhosh who made it is probably the best and I can try to answer questions about it too.
On 8 April 2011 18:48, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org wrote:
I will see if I can get some time dedicated to this. If/when I do, I will probably have some more questions about the extension - are you a good person to contact about it?
- Trevor
-Niklas
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