It seems there is reasonably strong support for running Debian on the new 1Us. Shaihulud, gwicke, jeronim would like Debian; I remember there was also support for it from various people here on tech-l. Again, it would make system administration and maintenance considerably easier and more manageable.
The only objection that was raised to Debian on the list was that it doesn't have a stable 64-bit release, which clearly isn't an issue for the P4s. Also, since I'm told Jimbo is unfamiliar with Debian (which might be a problem during the installation), I'd like to point out that you can install Debian pretty easily from a Knoppix CD. Only a barebones install is needed - the rest can be done over ssh.
Cheers, Ivan.
Ivan Krstic wrote:
The only objection that was raised to Debian on the list was that it doesn't have a stable 64-bit release, which clearly isn't an issue for the P4s. Also, since I'm told Jimbo is unfamiliar with Debian (which might be a problem during the installation),
It is is safe to assume that I could competently install it at least, particularly with guidance from the #mediawiki channel.
But there is a bigger issue -- these machines are already in service, and I'm leaving town tomorrow. I do not believe that there is time for an install before I go.
However, I am supportive of the next batch of servers running Debian if that's a popular choice.
We are experiencing a staggering traffic peak today.
--Jimbo
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Ivan Krstic wrote:
... Also, since I'm told Jimbo is unfamiliar with Debian (which might be a problem during the installation), I'd like to point out that you can install Debian pretty easily from a Knoppix CD. Only a barebones install is needed - the rest can be done over ssh.
Two words: Serial Console
Even better when netboot is in the picture. (I've done this several times. redhat, debian, suse, ...)
--Ricky
Ricky Beam wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Ivan Krstic wrote:
... Also, since I'm told Jimbo is unfamiliar with Debian (which might be a problem during the installation), I'd like to point out that you can install Debian pretty easily from a Knoppix CD. Only a barebones install is needed - the rest can be done over ssh.
Two words: Serial Console
Do you have a specific hardware recommendation? I think this is a good idea.
--Jimbo
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Two words: Serial Console
Do you have a specific hardware recommendation? I think this is a good idea.
Personally, I like the lightwave console servers. But they are very much not cheap. Beyond that, just about anything with a bunch of serial ports will do. The most cost effective solution would probablly be finding an old Cisco 2511 -- 16 serial ports. (Or a CS-500 if you want to go that far back into history.)
--Ricky
Note: Lightwave was purchased by Lantronix... http://www.lantronix.com/products/cs/scs1600_3200/index.html
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Ricky Beam wrote:
Personally, I like the lightwave console servers.
...
Note: Lightwave was purchased by Lantronix... http://www.lantronix.com/products/cs/scs1600_3200/index.html
http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=031463 -- $1,391.83 (free ship)
--Ricky
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 11:18:54AM -0700, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Ricky Beam wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Ivan Krstic wrote:
... Also, since I'm told Jimbo is unfamiliar with Debian (which might be a problem during the installation), I'd like to point out that you can install Debian pretty easily from a Knoppix CD. Only a barebones install is needed - the rest can be done over ssh.
Two words: Serial Console
Do you have a specific hardware recommendation? I think this is a good idea.
Cyclades, at www.cyclades.com, TS-1000 with 16 ports, or TS-2000 with 32 ports. Uses an embedded Linux and can be configured to provide remote access using SSH, while most terminal servers still use telnet.
Regards,
jeluf
Ivan Krstic wrote:
It seems there is reasonably strong support for running Debian on the new 1Us. Shaihulud, gwicke, jeronim would like Debian; I remember there was also support for it from various people here on tech-l.
There's nothing wrong with Debian, but the machines have been in service for several days already. It would be pretty silly to wipe them clean and start over.
Again, it would make system administration and maintenance considerably easier and more manageable.
Not really; it would require taking much greater care to differentiate between the Red Hat and non-Red Hat machines. apt-get is available on the new machines already, so that's not an issue.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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