Hi, The FAQ page (Don't remember the URL) tells that wikisource.org should be used for copyright expired source material and if wikipedians want to start writing a book, wikibooks.org is the right place. (The actual wording may be different, I have written it in plain english)
The differentiating line between these two projects is so thin, that I am confused. Will all the languages at wikisource get their own sub-domains? I asked the question but got no answer. There are a few languages which share the same writing style but are totally different in expression. For e.g. Marathi and Hindi. When someone is searching for Marathi source material, he certainly don't expect to see Hindi pages. Having a separate sub-domain will solve that problem.
Shantanu Oak shantanuo@yahoo.com
Note that as this is not a technical question, you probably should direct inquiries to foundation-l (the Wikimedia Foundation list) if there's not a forum directly related to the projects you're asking about.
On Jan 3, 2005, at 12:23 AM, shantanu oak wrote:
The FAQ page (Don't remember the URL) tells that wikisource.org should be used for copyright expired source material and if wikipedians want to start writing a book, wikibooks.org is the right place. (The actual wording may be different, I have written it in plain english)
The differentiating line between these two projects is so thin, that I am confused.
I don't see how these two can possibly be confused; they are enormously different.
Are you going to write NEW, original educational material? -> go to wikibooks
Are you copying OLD, previously published material which is free of copyright? -> go to wikisource
Will all the languages at wikisource get their own sub-domains?
Probably not generally.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:53:34 +0530, shantanu oak shantanu.oak@gmail.com wrote:
Will all the languages at wikisource get their own sub-domains?
Currently, there appears to be a lack of support within the Wikisource community for this. Please see the discussion and vote at http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium/Language_domain_proposal
Angela.
Hi,
Le Monday 3 January 2005 20:37, Angela a écrit :
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:53:34 +0530, shantanu oak shantanu.oak@gmail.com
wrote:
Will all the languages at wikisource get their own sub-domains?
Currently, there appears to be a lack of support within the Wikisource community for this. Please see the discussion and vote at http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium/Language_domain_proposal
On Wiktionary and Wikibooks, I supported the idea to create subdomains for each language. However I don't think this is a good idea for Wikisource. There is no overlap of article title in Wikisource like in other projects.
In Greek: http://wikisource.org/wiki/%CE%99%CE%9B%CE%99%CE%91%CE%A3 In English: http://wikisource.org/wiki/The_Iliad In French: http://wikisource.org/wiki/L%27Iliade
Moreover I want to have all documents, whatever the language, in one project. With the new localised interface, most of the arguments for subdomains are gone. Now you can read the Rigveda in Sanskrit or the Iliad in Greek with the language interface of your choice.
Angela.
Regards, Yann
shantanu oak wrote:
Hi, The FAQ page (Don't remember the URL) tells that wikisource.org should be used for copyright expired source material and if wikipedians want to start writing a book, wikibooks.org is the right place. (The actual wording may be different, I have written it in plain english)
The differentiating line between these two projects is so thin, that I am confused.
The key differentiating factor is in the originality of the work. A work on Wikisource must have been published elsewhere before. Respect for copyright is important in both projects, and is not a differentiating factor. Wikisource will allow works whose copyright has not expired if they have been properly licensed under GFDL.
The one area where there has not been a strong insistence on prior publication at Wikisource has been with computer source code. I personally would like to see it all moved to Wikibooks, but not enough to have a major battle over it.
Will all the languages at wikisource get their own sub-domains? I asked the question but got no answer. There are a few languages which share the same writing style but are totally different in expression. For e.g. Marathi and Hindi. When someone is searching for Marathi source material, he certainly don't expect to see Hindi pages. Having a separate sub-domain will solve that problem.
Having Marathi and Hindi in the same project should be no more a problem than having English and Turkish, or Arabic and Urdu. A person literate in Marathi should in most cases be easily able to recognize which language he is looking at in the list of titles, and just not bother to visit the Hindi pages. Is there something embarassing about seeing Hindi pages in the same place? Am I missing something in the relationship between the Marathi and Hindi communities?
The argument about a united or separate sub-domains was quite heated. For now, except for one language, we are continuing as a united sub-damain, even though this issue could come up again in the future. The united domain has had some interesting effects, notably in the efforts that people have made and have become willing to make in finding ways to work together. Such a willingness is what makes a wiki stronger.
Ec
PS: I agree with Brion that this is not a Wikitech question, and if I am to make any further comments on this it will be on the main Wikipedia mailing list, now that you know about it.
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