2010/4/10 Jack Bates ms419@freezone.co.uk

Does there exist a recommended wiki syntax for representing that a page is hierarchically a "child" of another page?

I don't want to rename the pages

Currently I use this static, hierarchical index of wiki pages which are part of our user manual, http://github.com/jablko/manual/raw/master/manual.html

• to compile the pages into this PDF, http://ica-atom.org/manual.pdf

Now however, instead of the static index, I want to represent in each page's wiki markup, which pages are logically "children" of that page

Among the reasons for doing this is that, to build the PDF based on the static index, currently I recursively concatenate first the body of a page, followed by each of its children

Now I have a case where, instead of concatenating the children after the page body, the children need to be inserted at various positions in the page body

So I think I need to indicate these positions with some wiki syntax, and this will make the static index redundant

I thought "transclusion" was a candidate, because pages are recursively transcluded to build the PDF, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion

In the wiki however, I don't actually want to display pages embedded in each other - instead I want links to child pages. This represents enough information about the hierarchical structure to build the PDF

My current best candidate is the <a href="..." rel="down"/> "link relation",

• http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg21260
• http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-divilly-atom-hierarchy-03

Is there a better syntax for representing, at a particular position in a page, that another page is a "child"?

I seems that this is another instance of the problem mentioned at bug 15073: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15073 What is needed is a "set of special pages for handling meta-organization of books", but this depends on bug 15071 (Wikibooks custom database schema): https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071 <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071>for which doesn't have any progress since 2008-09-16...

Helder

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Jack Bates ms419@freezone.co.uk wrote:

Does there exist a recommended wiki syntax for representing that a page is hierarchically a "child" of another page?

I don't want to rename the pages

Not in stock MediaWiki. The typical way to do this is to use subpages:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages

But you have to rename the pages (and the names can get long/ugly).

Among the reasons for doing this is that, to build the PDF based on the static index, currently I recursively concatenate first the body of a page, followed by each of its children

I don't know how it works, but Extension:Collector might be useful to you:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection

I thought "transclusion" was a candidate, because pages are recursively transcluded to build the PDF, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion

In the wiki however, I don't actually want to display pages embedded in each other - instead I want links to child pages. This represents enough information about the hierarchical structure to build the PDF

It might be possible in principle to use some kind of template that normally renders as a link, but could be persuaded to render as an inclusion under some conditions. I'm not sure offhand what the best way to do this would be.