I am an administrator in the English Wikipedia. It would be useful if these could be made possible:- * When deleting some edits in a page, to directly select them and delete them, instead of having to delete everything and then undelete the rest. * To move deleted edits. For example, earlier today I had to histmerge [[WRYV]] into [[WXBW]]; they were about a radio station which changed its callsign. But under the visible edits of [[WXBW]] there were speedy-deleted edits about a small wrestling club called Wantagh Xtreme Backyard Wrestling, and I had to get that irrelevantia out of the way before I started the primary job. So I had to get the visible edits out of the way to leave [[WXBW]] clear to undelete the wrestling edits; then move them to [[Wantagh Xtreme Backyard Wrestling]], and then re-delete them. In this case the wanted edits were all earlier than all the wanted edits, and I needed to temporarily delete the wanted edits anyway to move page [[WRYV]] in over them to histmerge. Sometimes it is more complicated, and I must temporarily rename the wanted edits to extract the junk edits from under them. It would have been easier if I could move deleted edits while leaving them deleted.
ANTHONY APPLEYARD wrote:
I am an administrator in the English Wikipedia. It would be useful if these could be made possible:-
- When deleting some edits in a page, to directly select them and
delete them, instead of having to delete everything and then undelete the rest.
We have rev_deleted feature implemented, but it is not reviewed yet.
- To move deleted edits. For example, earlier today I had to histmerge
[[WRYV]] into [[WXBW]]; they were about a radio station which changed its callsign. But under the visible edits of [[WXBW]] there were speedy-deleted edits about a small wrestling club called Wantagh Xtreme Backyard Wrestling, and I had to get that irrelevantia out of the way before I started the primary job. So I had to get the visible edits out of the way to leave [[WXBW]] clear to undelete the wrestling edits; then move them to [[Wantagh Xtreme Backyard Wrestling]], and then re-delete them. In this case the wanted edits were all earlier than all the wanted edits, and I needed to temporarily delete the wanted edits anyway to move page [[WRYV]] in over them to histmerge. Sometimes it is more complicated, and I must temporarily rename the wanted edits to extract the junk edits from under them. It would have been easier if I could move deleted edits while leaving them deleted
For history merge, we already have Special:MergeHistory implemented, but not reviewed yet :( --vvv
Victor Vasiliev wrote:
ANTHONY APPLEYARD wrote:
I am an administrator in the English Wikipedia. It would be useful if these could be made possible:-
- When deleting some edits in a page, to directly select them and
delete them, instead of having to delete everything and then undelete the rest.
We have rev_deleted feature implemented, but it is not reviewed yet.
While waiting for rev_deleted, even an UI for the current deletion system that allowed for selective deletion of revisions (rather than only wholesale deletion followed by selective undeletion) would be useful.
Something like that has been on my personal "to do" list for quite some time; who knows, maybe I'll even find the time to implement it before rev_deleted goes live. (That one's only been implemented and "waiting for more testing" for, what, two years now?)
There is a script which handles this (and restores the page's original protection levels in case your forget). One copy is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Animum/revdelete.js
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Ilmari Karonen [mailto:nospam@vyznev.net] Sent: August 31, 2008 7:19 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving pages
Victor Vasiliev wrote:
ANTHONY APPLEYARD wrote:
I am an administrator in the English Wikipedia. It would be useful if these could be made possible:-
- When deleting some edits in a page, to directly select them and
delete them, instead of having to delete everything and then undelete the rest.
We have rev_deleted feature implemented, but it is not reviewed yet.
While waiting for rev_deleted, even an UI for the current deletion system that allowed for selective deletion of revisions (rather than only wholesale deletion followed by selective undeletion) would be useful.
Something like that has been on my personal "to do" list for quite some time; who knows, maybe I'll even find the time to implement it before rev_deleted goes live. (That one's only been implemented and "waiting for more testing" for, what, two years now?)
mike.lifeguard wrote:
There is a script which handles this (and restores the page's original protection levels in case your forget). One copy is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Animum/revdelete.js
Nice to know. However, while the script certainly makes the whole process easier for the admin doing it, it doesn't actually make it any less laborious behind the scenes: it's still deleting all revisions of the page only to immediately restore all but one of them.
Also, while seemingly well written for a JavaScript workaround, it's not as robust as a server-side solution could be. I suspect all sorts of unpleasant stuff may happen if you try it on a page with both a very long edit history and lots of previously deleted revisions.
Absolutely. In fact, I've never used the script, but it does the job according to others who have. But scripted solutions are generally inferior to server-side code. I eagerly await implementation of "real" rev_deleted. I've had it on my localhost wiki with no problems for some time, however, we are waiting on formal code review, I think.
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Ilmari Karonen [mailto:nospam@vyznev.net] Sent: September 2, 2008 1:47 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving pages
mike.lifeguard wrote:
There is a script which handles this (and restores the page's original protection levels in case your forget). One copy is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Animum/revdelete.js
Nice to know. However, while the script certainly makes the whole process easier for the admin doing it, it doesn't actually make it any less laborious behind the scenes: it's still deleting all revisions of the page only to immediately restore all but one of them.
Also, while seemingly well written for a JavaScript workaround, it's not as robust as a server-side solution could be. I suspect all sorts of unpleasant stuff may happen if you try it on a page with both a very long edit history and lots of previously deleted revisions.
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