Interesting about the database situation. I was contemplating something
like a gadget that would be embedded on the page but be hosted on Labs.
Alternatively, the frequently updated info could be posted to Wikidata for
text and Commons for imagery so that information can be efficiently updated
across projects and languages.
Pine
On Aug 18, 2015 5:26 AM, "Erik Zachte" <ezachte(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
As for realtime, I recommend caution with burdening
Wikipedia with even
more highly transient information, at least within our current database
scheme.
For years Serbian Wikinews has been inundated with weather info, hourly
(!), per city (!), and thus managed 3 million revisions with a handful of
editors.
All those edits have made the dump explode in size: 6 GB uncompressed for
77k articles with about 2k content on average. Even if disk size doesn't
matter, it slows batch processing, and clutters page history.
Erik
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From: wikitech-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikitech-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Keyes
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 13:52
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Geohack tools
Discovery is currently working on a maps service, which is a first step
towards "geo-relevant" information, but the plan is to put that on hold for
Q2 (read: the next 3 months) while we identify a clearer use case for it.
If you or anyone else are interested in this kind of project (or in the
functioning of our search service) I recommend subscribing to
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
On 18 August 2015 at 06:09, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Toby, is there any chance that the Reading team
(or maybe Multimedia
or
Discovery?) will incorporate more intractive features or realtime
geo-relevant into Wikipedia with information like weather, air and
marine traffic, bus and train service (particularly for landmarks with
lots of tourists), star and sattelite positions in the sky,
socioeconomic data maps, financial statistics, etc?
Thanks,
Pine
On Aug 13, 2015 2:22 PM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It's great to hear that work is progressing on this.
>
> I'd like to see more interactive features on pages, for example live
> air traffic, ground traffic, and marine traffic data; and weather
conditions.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Yuri Astrakhan
> <yastrakhan(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Pine, you are right. That list is not very useful, and instead
>> should look something like this:
>>
>>
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Salzburg#Get_around
>>
>> The bad news is that the tile service it uses is hosted on labs,
>> which means it cannot scale to the regular wikipedia-usage levels.
>> Plus there might be a potential policy problem there - default
>> lab-content loading on every page visit without user's consent.
>>
>> The good news is that we are very close to launching a full-blown
>> WMF production-hosted tile service, based on the wonderful data from
OSM.
>>
>> See general info and some ideas people have proposed -
>>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps (feel free to add more)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Gergo Tisza <gtisza(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I just now realized how powerful these tools are when I started
>> clicking
>> > > around.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=File%3AWhite-
>> cheeked_Starling_perching_on_a_rock.jpg¶ms=34.610576_N_135.54054
>> 2_E_globe:Earth_class:object_&language=en
>> > >
>> > > Is there any chance of integrating some of these tools more
>> > > directly
>> onto
>> > > Wikipedia pages, and into mobile web/mobile apps?
>> > >
>> >
>> > There is an ongoing project
>> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/1127/> to
>> > integrate maps into MediaWiki; that's probably the best place to
>> > catalog the use cases
>> of
>> > Geohack and decide which can and need to be supported by the new
tools.
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