Hi,
one of our problems in dealing with vandals is that we can't reliably talk to them. They may read the changelog, but it's quite possible that they don't. They may see the article Talk page, but it's quite probable that they have already moved on to the next one.
We already have a user talk page change notification mechanism in place, but we currently don't use it for anons. How about this: next to the IP number in recent changes, we would make a link to User Talk:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. This would be created if it doesn't exist. Anonymous users would then by default get notifications when their Talk pages have been changed.
This isn't reliable, because several users can share an IP. But that's not a problem -- it's really not a big deal if someone reads a message not intended for them, and we could include a standard disclaimer: "Please note: Sometimes several users share one IP address. These messages might not be addressed to you -- in that case, please ignore them." At least it would allow us to talk to anons, which I believe would help in many cases, or keep them busy.
I also suggest changing the somewhat unfriendly "*" indicator to something more obvious, like
(Talk)
when there are no new messages and
(Talk - new messages)
when there are.
What do you think? The only problem I see is that these talk pages might be obsolete after a day or so, but if that ever becomes a problem, we could clean them up automatically.
Regards,
Erik
We already have a user talk page change notification mechanism in place, but we currently don't use it for anons. How about this: next to the IP number in recent changes, we would make a link to User Talk:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. This would be created if it doesn't exist. Anonymous users would then by default get notifications when their Talk pages have been changed.
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What do you think? The only problem I see is that these talk pages might be obsolete after a day or so, but if that ever becomes a problem, we could clean them up automatically.
The problem I see, is that most anonymous users would not follow that link even after your change of indicator.
Andre Engels
Andre Engels wrote:
We already have a user talk page change notification mechanism in place, but we currently don't use it for anons. How about this: next to the IP number in recent changes, we would make a link to User Talk:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. This would be created if it doesn't exist. Anonymous users would then by default get notifications when their Talk pages have been changed.
The problem I see, is that most anonymous users would not follow that link even after your change of indicator.
Would it help if "Talk" were made to flash? That usually annoys people enough to get their attention.
Eclecticology
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:39:46AM -0800, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Would it help if "Talk" were made to flash? That usually annoys people enough to get their attention.
That is a nifty idea; any way we could make it flash, say, 5-8 times, and then stop? Flashing is totally annoying, but if it just flashes a few times then stops, it gets my attention without annoying me out of my skull.
Jonathan
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