Thomas PT <thomaspt <at> hotmail.fr> writes:
Hi!
Your proposal looks very good. I'll be very happy to help you as co-mentor
on
this project if is no GSoc
project for Proofread Page.
Some comments:
1. You should keep in mind that the extension will be used by Wikibook and
Wikisource communities so these
communities must be involve in the project.
2. For Wikisource, the extension should be nicely integrated with the
current
proofreading workflow
managed by Proofread Page (this can be done in a
second time but we should
keep it in mind).
3. The extension should, I think, be able to manage
metadata about books
like the author(s) in order to be
able to provide these information in the exported
files. The metadata have
sometime to be input by the
contributors (like the author of a Wikisource book) or
to be get from
MediaWiki (like the authors of
Wikibook books that are the contributors of the book
pages) or maybe, in
the future, even get from Wikidata.
4. The extension must be simple to use. I believe that
one of the main
goal is to simplify the edition
workflow. So, new wikicode syntax to learn for basic
users should be
avoided as much as possible (this
doesn't concern syntax that will only be used in
templates).
A good way to archive these goals is maybe be to make book main pages not
wikitext
based pages, but a page that
store in a structured format (like JSON) metadata of
the book, a table of
content and some free text spaces,
all of that edited via a clever form. For that, we can
reuse some code
written for the Wikidata project
(storage with the Content handler, Diff system,
DataValue library...).
Working in that way will allow to get nice and well-formatted metadata
that can be
used to improve
cataloging of books and avoid the need for people to
learn new tags,
templates or parser functions in order
to create a new books. But this will require more
development time.
What do you think about it?
Thomas
(I CC the members of the "Elaborate Wikisource strategic vision" group)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:16:44 -0400
From: gorillawarfarewikipedia <at>
gmail.com
To: wikitech-l <at>
lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013: Improve support for book structures
Hi! I'm Molly White, or GorillaWarfare on the WMF projects. I'm planning to
submit a proposal to the WMF for this summer's Google Summer of Code (and
probably also the Outreach Program for Women) and was hoping to get some
feedback. See my proposal at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare/Proposal.
I would like to improve support for projects (like Wikisource and
Wikibooks) that have content that's structured as a book and not as an
article. I plan to do this by working on the existing BookManager
extension. It's currently unstable and very much in development, so there's
a lot of room for improvement.
Do you have any feedback, concerns, suggestions, etc.? Do you think the
project is feasible for GSoC?
Thanks,
Molly White
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Wow, thank you so much for your detailed reply. I would love to have you as
a co-mentor, assuming no one is available to work on the Proofread Page
extension.
Regarding your suggestions: I've posted on both English and Multilingual
Wikisource regarding my ideas, but I will do so again when I have a more
specific plan. I'll also communicate with the Wikibooks community. I'm sure
both communities will have a lot of useful feedback.
How do you envision this integrating with Proofread Page? The vision I had
of this extension was as a somewhat separate process, but I think the more
the process can be simplified, the better.
I strongly agree about the metadata. I will be more specific in my proposal
that I intend to include the ability to add that on the book organization
page. I also like the idea of integrating it with WikiData.
I had planned to use a form-type organization page, and not to try to
organize it using wikitext. I really like the JSON idea, actually; I think
that might be the perfect format for this. I will start looking at the
WikiData code to get an idea of how they use it.
Thanks so much,
Molly White