Hoi, One difference with pictures is, that when you save a screen with a picture on it, you save the picture at the same time. When you save an "image" with a sound, you do NOT save the sound at the same time. The problem is that when people prepare their computer to use .ogg files. One stage is to check if you can hear .ogg files locally. This means that you have to HAVE an .ogg file.
Yesterday I mentioned that sounds being "Image"s for wikimedia is counterintuitive, today I ask for a Sound detail screens which has the option to download the sound,
Thanks, GerardM
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:32:43 +0200, Gerard Meijssen gerardm@myrealbox.com wrote:
Hoi, One difference with pictures is, that when you save a screen with a picture on it, you save the picture at the same time. When you save an "image" with a sound, you do NOT save the sound at the same time.
I'm not sure what you mean by "save a screen with a picture on it" - do you mean pressing "save" in the browser and using some "save web page complete with all its bits" function?
The problem is that when people prepare their computer to use .ogg files. One stage is to check if you can hear .ogg files locally. This means that you have to HAVE an .ogg file.
Well, if you click a Media: link to a .ogg file, and there's nothing set up to load it, you'll be asked to save the file, like any other unrecognised download. So then you'll have an Ogg.
Yesterday I mentioned that sounds being "Image"s for wikimedia is counterintuitive, today I ask for a Sound detail screens which has the option to download the sound,
This might actually be quite a good idea, because Media: links have an annoying flaw: since they by-pass the description page, you can't access a description through them. If we had a proper Sound: (or, thinking ahead, AV: or some other combined term for sounds and videos, which are generally treated similarly) namespace, we could have magic links like we do for images.
[[Image:foo]] gives you an inline image, plus access to a description page; [[Sound:foo]] (or [[AV:foo]]) could give you a direct link to the file (marked "Play", or with that symbol that always means 'play') plus a link to a description, which would include help; or maybe a third link to help, giving something like: +-----------------------------------------+ | Listen to foo. |> [Info] [Help] | +-----------------------------------------+
If we wanted to be *really* clever, we could provide options for using inline browser plugins to play the sound, but given the desire to support as many alternatives as possible, that may be a bit complex...
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