Why is the German Wiki on Pacific, when the English one is on UTC? How is someone in Brazil or Australia supposed to answer the question, since southern DST is out of phase with northern?
There's only one server, and it's now on UTC. The /text/ of the German wiki is incorrect, and just hasn't been updated (I think it's correct in CVS, but since I'm not a German speaker I'll have to rely on Magnus to confirm that).
lcrocker@nupedia.com wrote:
Why is the German Wiki on Pacific, when the English one is on UTC? How is someone in Brazil or Australia supposed to answer the question, since southern DST is out of phase with northern?
There's only one server, and it's now on UTC. The /text/ of the German wiki is incorrect, and just hasn't been updated (I think it's correct in CVS, but since I'm not a German speaker I'll have to rely on Magnus to confirm that).
I updated the live server to the CVS version on the assumption that it's more correct than it was previously. Also, I changed the server's time zone config from UCT to UTC, so it spits out the more usual acronym in the time for signatures, etc.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Whould it be too Germany-centristic to have the time field set to +2 (and +1 in Winter) by default (only in the de.wikipedia of course)? And also for not logged-in users?
I guess more than 90% of the German language Wikipedia contributors are from Germany, Austria or Swiss.
Kurt
On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 03:22:56PM +0200, Kurt Jansson wrote:
Whould it be too Germany-centristic to have the time field set to +2 (and +1 in Winter) by default (only in the de.wikipedia of course)? And also for not logged-in users?
I guess more than 90% of the German language Wikipedia contributors are from Germany, Austria or Swiss.
Could you also do it for Polish Wikipedia ? (the same timezone)
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 03:22:56PM +0200, Kurt Jansson wrote:
Whould it be too Germany-centristic to have the time field set to +2 (and +1 in Winter) by default (only in the de.wikipedia of course)? And also for not logged-in users?
I guess more than 90% of the German language Wikipedia contributors are from Germany, Austria or Swiss.
Could you also do it for Polish Wikipedia ? (the same timezone)
I don't see why not... is there summer time/daylight savings to deal with, or is it just a straight UTC+1?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 11:10:53PM -0800, Brion VIBBER wrote:
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 03:22:56PM +0200, Kurt Jansson wrote:
Whould it be too Germany-centristic to have the time field set to +2 (and +1 in Winter) by default (only in the de.wikipedia of course)? And also for not logged-in users?
I guess more than 90% of the German language Wikipedia contributors are from Germany, Austria or Swiss.
Could you also do it for Polish Wikipedia ? (the same timezone)
I don't see why not... is there summer time/daylight savings to deal with, or is it just a straight UTC+1?
There is summer and winter time, and that's why server must deal with it, as you can1't expect everyone to fix their preferences every few months.
Most of Europe is +1/+2, even parts where this doesn't make much sense (but compatibility is more important).
Afair only Portugal, UK, Ireland (+0/+1) on the West and Finland and former USSR republics (+2/+3) on the East use different time than that.
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
There is summer and winter time, and that's why server must deal with it, as you can1't expect everyone to fix their preferences every few months.
Most of Europe is +1/+2, even parts where this doesn't make much sense (but compatibility is more important).
Afair only Portugal, UK, Ireland (+0/+1) on the West and Finland and former USSR republics (+2/+3) on the East use different time than that.
And there are also locations where the difference between UTC and local time is not clean houres but also 30 minutes. For French Polynesia http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Polynesia it is UTC - 9:30 Does the software support - 30 minutes ? I have no succes. Not that i am from "French Polynesia" but i like to know. -- giskart
I've set the German wiki to consider the default timezone as Central European (Summer) Time. That is, if you _don't_ set a timezone offset (leave it blank) you see times in CEST. If you do set an offset, it's still measured against UTC, so there should be no nasty surprises.
The four-tilde signature-with-time also shows according to this site-wide default local time. (This can be set via $wgLocaltimezone in LocalSettings.php)
Note that this does not affect the places in recentchanges list where the date change is shown; this is a known bug that affects anyone with offset not set to server time.
Giskart wrote:
And there are also locations where the difference between UTC and local time is not clean houres but also 30 minutes. For French Polynesia http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Polynesia it is UTC - 9:30 Does the software support - 30 minutes ? I have no succes. Not that i am from "French Polynesia" but i like to know. -- giskart
Not yet, but I'll be sure and bang that in.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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