Hello,
Some French-language Wikipedians would like to translate the text of the two images at the bottom of each page: "A Wikimedia project" and "Powered by MediaWiki". To answer them I would like to know: * if it is technically possible; * what people from the Foundation think about it.
Thanks for your answers.
g.
On 04/09/06, Guillaume Paumier guillom.pom@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Some French-language Wikipedians would like to translate the text of the two images at the bottom of each page: "A Wikimedia project" and "Powered by MediaWiki". To answer them I would like to know:
- if it is technically possible;
It is not technically possible to translate the "powered by MediaWiki" logo at present.
- what people from the Foundation think about it.
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
Rob Church
On 9/4/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/09/06, Guillaume Paumier guillom.pom@gmail.com wrote:
- what people from the Foundation think about it.
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
One option would be to allow a localised caption or alt text for the image, while still keeping the same image everywhere.
On 04/09/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/4/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
One option would be to allow a localised caption or alt text for the image, while still keeping the same image everywhere.
The puzzle-piece globe gets different text as needed. What on earth?
- d.
2006/9/4, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com:
On 04/09/06, Guillaume Paumier guillom.pom@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Some French-language Wikipedians would like to translate the text of the two images at the bottom of each page: "A Wikimedia project" and "Powered by MediaWiki". To answer them I would like to know:
- if it is technically possible;
It is not technically possible to translate the "powered by MediaWiki" logo at present.
- what people from the Foundation think about it.
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
In some countries there are some laws which **requires** all texts to be available in the language of the users, especially in countries with several national languages (Swiss, Spanish, etc.). So having such a strict rule may forbid the use of Wikimedia in some of their administration, at least.
Personnaly, I do think that everyone should be free to localize the tools used.
Yann
Rob Church wrote:
It is not technically possible to translate the "powered by MediaWiki" logo at present.
So many things that need to be parameterizable, so little time... :-)
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
I'm not from the Foundation, either (and know less about it than Rob does), but it seems to me that retaining the image part of each image, and the names "Wikimedia" and "MediaWiki", and the background shading and the text font and color and the overall look and feel and everything, while changing only the words "A ... project" and "Powered By" to proper translations in a wiki's local language, ought to be perfectly acceptable (if it was technically possible).
Forwarding to Foundation list - this is being put as a trademark question, not a technical question.
The question: is it allowable to translate the "Powered by MediaWiki" and "A Wikimedia project" logos? Given the puzzle globe is routinely translated ...
- d.
On 04/09/06, Steve Summit scs@eskimo.com wrote:
Rob Church wrote:
It is not technically possible to translate the "powered by MediaWiki" logo at present.
So many things that need to be parameterizable, so little time... :-)
I'm not from the Foundation, but I think that translating the "powered by MediaWiki" logo will lead to inconsistencies with other uses of the software; that button brands all MediaWiki wikis, and should be kept as such.
I'm not from the Foundation, either (and know less about it than Rob does), but it seems to me that retaining the image part of each image, and the names "Wikimedia" and "MediaWiki", and the background shading and the text font and color and the overall look and feel and everything, while changing only the words "A ... project" and "Powered By" to proper translations in a wiki's local language, ought to be perfectly acceptable (if it was technically possible).
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Hi and thanks for your answers so far
On 9/4/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Forwarding to Foundation list - this is being put as a trademark question, not a technical question.
The question: is it allowable to translate the "Powered by MediaWiki" and "A Wikimedia project" logos? Given the puzzle globe is routinely translated ...
- d.
Actually, my original email was sent to both foundation-l and wikitech-l...
g.
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