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Moin,
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 17:36, Timwi wrote:
Any model, if over applied, is harmful.
Agree. But you didn't elaborate on this fully. Discussion threads and wiki are not mutually exclusive models.
I am strongly in favour of LiquidThreads as long as it doesn't let users claim ownership over "their" comments (which the current proposal proposes to do).
I do think these are two seperate points:
* how to improve the discussion pages on a wiki * whether each author own his/her comment or not.
Thinking about this, a wiki article is "owned" by multiple authors, none of which are readily apparent (you have to check the history and even than it is hard to track who "owns" what). OTOH, it is written in NPOV, and checked by a lot of people.
Discussions, OTOH, also involve personal opinions. Danger lies ahead when the opionion can be changed, but is still labeled (or signed, if you wish) with the original authors name.
The current model doesn't even have a way to handle this, let alone to prvent it (if you wanted to prevent it).
Just imagine that this discussion we have is on a wiki, this is the latest edition (you would need to check the history, aka mailing list archives to see the full revisions) and it contained:
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 17:36, Timwi wrote:
Any model, if over applied, is harmful.
Agree. I am strongly in favour of LiquidThreads.
See the danger? (for the record, the above quote of three lines was written/shortened by me, not Timwi).
The current model only relies on "Prinzip Hoffnung", e.g. that is you *hope* that the reader checks the history, or someone checks and edits the discussion page back.
If we can improve the discussion page itself, *and* prevent misrepresentation at the same time, well, that would be great :)
Best wishes,
Tels
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