----- Yury Katkov
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerromeo@gmail.com wrote:
I think Yury has a point. Now would be a good time to maybe discuss exactly what's going on. As exciting a feature it may be, we cannot just "deploy next week" and then have "the schedule for deployment not yet decided". Stuff like this should have a legitimate plan. Furthermore, in alignment with the previous thread on feature development, is there any hard discussion on enwiki, etc. showing the users want this feature? I know sure as hell that I'd love using this feature, but I don't represent all template developers everywhere.
Some good questions we should probably answer (if they haven't been answered already):
- Is Extension:Lua the extension being deployed? If so, why is it still
in Subversion and why is it marked experimental?
as far as I can see this extensions have been deployed : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto , not this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lua
- What QA has been done on this extension? How many test cases have been
implemented?
- What are the performance impacts of using this v. regular parser
functions? (Also, what is faster, PECL or external interpreter?)
- Do global variables persist outside of an individual script, i.e., can
one global variable be used in multiple <lua> tags in the same template?
- Has there been any consideration of implementing a "standard library"?
For example, functions that will allow the creation of wikitables and other mediawiki syntax.
- What values for the various wgLuaMax* variables are we planning on
using on WMF wikis? Has there been testing done to determine what a reasonable maximum call time is?
I probably should have looked into this more earlier, but it's been a busy week for me and I haven't had much time.
*--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerromeo@gmail.com
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Tobias church.of.emacs.ml@googlemail.comwrote:
On 08/22/2012 12:18 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
So my inclination is to push for deployment with a minimum of additional development work. But I'm not the target audience; my inclinations have to be weighed against the needs of the users.
in the name of countless Wikipedians, who are struggeling with that horrible Template/Magic word/ParserFunctions syntax, I say: thank you :)
This page is dedicated to its victims: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Church_of_emacs/Template_love
Cheers, Tobias
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