Only thing more dangerous than running a bot on nowiki is running a bot on dewiki. Nope, newer touches dewiki.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:49 AM Roul P. perhelion1@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting, today this was topic in the German main forum:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Anwendung_von_%...
Today there are also more than one user indefinite blocked, which only removed <nowiki/> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Entgr%C3%A4ten40
Am Fr., 5. Okt. 2018 um 00:29 Uhr schrieb John Erling Blad < jeblad@gmail.com
:
We have the same in Norwegian, but linking on part of a composite is
almost
always wrong. Either you link on the whole composite or no part of the composite. If you link on a part of a composite, then in nearly all
cases I
have seen the link is placed on the wrong term.
Some examples on what insanity users write
- [[absorpsjon]]s[[Spektrallinje|linjene]]
- [[Autentisering]]s[[Protokoll (datamaskiner)|protokollen]]
- [[Sykepleie|sykehjem]]s[[Hjemmesykepleie|omsorg]]
From an article messed up by VE (yes it does mess up articles sometimes!)
- ma[[Øssur Havgrímsson|ge]]<nowiki/>e[[Øssur Havgrímsson|evner og]]
- og[[Øssur Havgrímsson|i]]<nowiki/>t[[Øssur Havgrímsson|det samme]]
I have no clue what the previous means…
Things like the following is quite common
- [[Alexander Kielland]]<nowiki/>s
- [[De forente nasjoner|FN]]<nowiki/>s
Usually it comes from user errors while using VE. This kind of errors are quite common, and I asked (several years ago) whether it could be fixed
in
VE, but was told "no".
Anyhow I just started a bot to clean up some of the mess…
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:59 PM Thiemo Kreuz thiemo.kreuz@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey!
The syntax "[[Schnee]]<nowiki />reichtum" is quite common in the German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same: <span /> or ­ can be used instead.[1] The later is often the better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For example, "[[Bund]]<nowiki />estag" must become "[[Bund]]es­tag".
Not long ago <b/> was often used. This became a problem with the recent parser updates. All <b/> got replaced with <nowiki />, as far as I'm aware of.
in German, shouldn't they be tweaking the "linktrail" setting on
dewiki,
instead of using `<nowiki/>`? What are cases where they *do* want the
link
to include the entire word?
The software feature exists because of English [[word ending]]s. The same exists in German ("viele [[Wiki]]s, viele [[Tisch]]e, viele [[Arbeit]]en"), but is overshadowed by the fact that German is a language with many composites. From my experience, the fact that all linktrails, no matter how long, become part of the link is almost always a problem. It enlarges the click region, which is good, but surprises the reader when he ends at an unexpected article. I guess it would actually be a net-gain when the feature gets turned off or tuned down in German wikis. For example, we could limit the length of the linktrail to 2 characters.
Is somebody interested in creating usage statistics for these linktrails in the German Wikipedia main namespace?
Best Thiemo
[1]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verlinken#Verlinkung_von_Teilw%C3%B6...
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