I am a bit late to the party, but do we seriously spend days discussing someone being banned from a bug tracker just for saying "WTF", having their original comment completely censored, so that the community can't even make a decision how bad it really was? Is that what we turned into? From highly skilled developers and some of best experts in the field to a bunch of language nazis?
We have tens of thousands of open tasks to work on and instead of doing something useful we are wasting our time here. Really? Oh, come on...
We are open source developers. If you make Phabricator too hostile to use it by setting up some absolutely useless and annoying rules, people will just move to some other bug tracker, or decide to spend their free time on a different open source project. Most of us are volunteers, we don't get money for this.
P.S. if all the effort we put into this gigantic thread was put into solving the original bug instead (yes it's a bug, not a feature) it would be already resolved. Instead we are mocking someone who was so desperate with the situation to use some swear words.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:06 AM, Yaron Koren yaron57@gmail.com wrote:
Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
The CoC will prioritize the safety of the minority over the comfort of the majority.
This is an odd thing to say, in this context. I don't believe anyone's safety is endangered by hearing the phrase in question, so it seems like just an issue of comfort on both sides. And who are the minority and majority here?
The way the bug was closed might be incorrect (I personally as an engineer agree that closing it shows little understanding of how technical teams do track bugs in phab, some improvements are in order here for sure) but the harsh interaction is just one out of many that have been out of line for while.
This seems like the current argument - that it's not really about the use of a phrase, it's about an alleged pattern of behavior by MZMcBride. What this pattern is I don't know - the one example that was brought up was a blog post he wrote six years ago, which caused someone else to say something mean in the comments. (!) As others have pointed out, there's a lack of transparency here.
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