On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
- Old bot is written in java and nearly no one has access to source
code, neither is managing it, the bot is still running without> problems rather thanks to original creator who did a great work and> made a very stable code, extending the bot with more features could be> problem.That is due to a slight historical issue, I did ask about getting it in SVN once before, but no one that was around really know about the licenseing conditions of AmiDaniel's work on it and due to his absence I couldn't nag him about it, But I do believe it has been getting given out to anyone that has asked in the channel.
- New bot is running on wmf labs so that it should be running on more
stable server with better connectivity and also is better accessible> for others, because apart of toolsever it's no problem to give acess> to service user account to more devs (anyone with svn account can get> access there) so that more people can operate the bot and patch it.Just for future reference the TS operaterates out of the some DC (and cage) as the WMF cluster since it is housed with, so it generally has the same connectivity as the cluster, The last few connectivity issues mw-bot has had were caused by not handling NetSpilts well.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Happy Melon happy.melon.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I am indeed struggling to see why a volunteer donating their time and skills to produce a tool which is useful to the community, committing that code in a way that makes it as accessible as possible to other developers, prioritising its stability and availability, and soliciting feedback from other members of the community, is in some way something that should be treated with scorn and negativity.
I believe it may be because the first email sort of sounds like it implies that the current TS multi-group (Roan, Mz, OverlordQ, (and others?)) have been lazy and not updating its features or core code.
The core bot code (PIrcBot) hasn't been touched since at 2009 (and before that 2007) so there wasn't really any need to change that, unless we wanted to use one of the forks (I believe ^demon does jenkins bot) and as OverlordQ pointed out he hasn't seen any requests for new features.