On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Brad Jorsch bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the way that Wikidata is being "weaponized" as the reason for attempting to force changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and content) with respect to specific article categories or even individual articles.
It's not obvious within the project either, at least for someone like me who hasn't been following the endless arguments over whether some WikiProject should be able to decide not to use infoboxes on "their" articles and whether they're ganging up to prevent any local consensus to use infoboxes on "their" articles, etc, etc, etc.
Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned wikidata phase 2 deployment.
nonetheless, when I've drilled down on several of the recent confrontations about infoboxes, at their core it has been about making sure that there is an infobox in existence and in a format that will be useable for Wikidata; it is not about "improving" the article or making it more accessible to readers, or even about internal consistency.
Is the conflict about wikidata, or is wikidata just another excuse for one side to argue that infoboxes such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_classical_composer should be deleted (or never created) and the other to argue that they should be more widely used? Wikidata itself doesn't create a single infobox or add an infobox to any article, and there is no requirement for any infobox (or any instance of any particular infobox) to actually use the data from wikidata.
Thank you Brad!
For everyone: We have decided to delay the deployment to fix some technical issues we are experiencing and to give editors some more time to decide on initial groundrules. I'll let you know as soon as I have more info on the new deployment date. Please please do make use of the time until then. I am here to answer questions and all but I can't lead this. (I've also posted a note to the technical village pump.)
Cheers Lydia
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