On 23 July 2013 02:32, Subramanya Sastry ssastry@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 07/22/2013 10:44 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
Round-trip bugs, and bugs which cause a given wikitext input to give different HTML in Parsoid compared to MW, should have been detected during automated testing, prior to beta deployment. I don't know why we need users to report them.
500+ edits are being done per hour using Visual Editor [1] (less at this time given that it is way past midnight -- I have seen about 700/hour at times). I did go and click on over 100 links and examined the diffs. I did that twice in the last hour. I am happy to report clean diffs on all edits I checked both times. I did run into a couple of nowiki-insertions which is, strictly speaking not erroneous and based on user input, but is more a usability issue.
I do not know where you get the idea that the nowiki insertions are user input errors. Almost without exception, nowiki insertions are done by VE and not by the user, and are inserted in ways that an editor would have no reason to expect one to appear.
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The timing of the A/B test also seems to have created a lot of understandable confusion around the issue. Maybe a new A/B test is merited after some time.
You pretty much had one chance at A/B testing, and it's done now. You can't repeat the tests as long as VE is the default editor.
Risker