On 3/12/11 7:23 PM, Platonides wrote:
William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 3/12/11 9:03 AM, Casey Brown wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:45 AM, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simpson@gmail.com wrote:
How to fix this?
Have you triedhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Anmelden or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Anmelden/signup?
No, especially as I don't speak German. And I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that any attempt to create a new version of my same name would be rejected as centralauth will find the duplicate original name.
Still worth trying.
Tried a regular login via secure -- it worked, no errors, using: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Anmelden...
Looking at the cookies, it automatically logged me into enwiki, too.
And dewiki successfully finds the 27 old transwiki edits in the contributions (Benutzerbeiträge).
Special:MergeAccount now sees dewiki.
But the SUL tool doesn't see the old edits (that first 0 is editcount).
dewiki (c) wikipedia 0 2011031317400117:40, 13 March 2011 0 No autocreated
It originally seemed to me this was more of an inter-site data sharing issue. Later information from Platonides leads me to think this is a software issue, that leads to an inconsistent database.
How did transwikified edits not point back to the original site and user?
Because the author field is not prepared for doing so. Thus the transwiking just copies the user name, hoping that it is the same.
Oh, that sounds ugly! I seem to remember in the back of my mind an old bug report about adding inter-site information, I'll see whether I can find it. I thought that was done *before* unified login.
How is some kind of user set up that isn't unifiable, or even findable with the SUL collision detector and MergeAccount tools?
Well, it's not an user. The way it is stored, is exactly the same as if it was an anonymous user with the ip 'William Allen Simpson' :)
Hmmm, it got us through the first decade.... Kinda reminds me why I stopped emailing as Bill Simpson almost 20 years ago, and went to my full name.
(Worked from 1977 to 1991, much too common after the Internet got bigger. And DayDreamer was not going to work well at all!)
I'm sure I'm unlikely to be the only such instance?
I'll try not to disturb the de variant data for William Allen Simpson, until some nice developer figures out the issue with the database....
I too have some of those magic editions: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cantar_de_Mio_Cid&diff=prev&am... Although I already had an account on dewiki when they were copied.
It is a known db state. What may be broken is CentralAuth detection.
Yes, to the latter. Also a security hole. I think I could take over some accounts. It simply doesn't keep enough information.