Brion Vibber wrote:
Platonides wrote:
Can we do temporary edits to the template to make it semi-functional (only a couple of switchs), or it can't be touched until you finish investigating?
It's 5 days since this reminding, a week since the slowness. We're missing the funcionality it provided. So, is there any reason blocking from restoring it? (if so, why hasn't been resolved yet? :D)
There was a 'policy' of users don't needing to worry about server issues ('if there aren't enough servers, we will add more'), but here there is a collision.
Jesus Christ!
I can't say words without having some God-given "policy" read into them.
I made a general recommendation not to go running around saying THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING about templates BASED ON SUPPOSITION AND PARANOIA.
Now we are confused, running in circles crashing into each other and taking decisions based on suppositions, because...
That doesn't mean that AN ACTUAL PROBLEM, WHEN DISCOVERED, SHOULD BE IGNORED.
WHEN THERE IS AN ACTUAL, REAL, MEASURABLE PROBLEM, THEN IT MATTERS.
IN THIS CASE THERE IS AN ACTUAL, REAL, MEASURABLE PROBLEM.
UNTIL THAT GETS FIXED UP ON THE SOFTWARE END, THE PARTICULAR TEMPLATE WHICH IS AN ACTUAL, REAL, MEASURABLE PROBLEM, TAKING 10-20 SECONDS TO RENDER, MUST NOT BE WIDELY USED.
...what we want to know is very simple:
a) are you going to change mediawiki so it works, or b) should we forget it and make a new one (and in that case, do you know what construction exactly should be avoided, or should we guess and try at Special:Expandtemplate), or c) you don't yet know? d) [other option I didn't think about]
And people are already implementing different solutions that they think are best, multiplying different templates, while others are waiting for that template to be functional again, and lots of articles meanwhile lose their interproject links... *because nobody knows what to expect*.
So... could any of you please give us some information about this specific problem, so people at eswiki can make an informed decision?
Try to use some common sense, people.
There's no "policy" here. Just *sense*.
'Policy' was between quotes and Platonides is not a native speaker. Probably he meant something like 'rule' (probably not, but I understood it that way), and he explicitly said that it doesn't apply here. es:WP:PBF :-P
Greetings.