On 05/09/2017 17:47, Chad wrote:
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:28 AM Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernandez@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I think that people using old browsers on desktop, are most surely doing it because they have to (company policy on locked down computers) and showing them a banner or similar is only going to detract from their experience with information they don't neither want nor need.
To be honest, bugging these users means hopefully they'll bug their IT managers to finally get their fucking asses in the 2010s and stop being irresponsible. I won't lose any sleep over annoying them...
That is not how it works in a big company. To deploy a new browser you gotta: * update the base images used to deploy the workstations * revalidate all the applications * revalidate all the web apps with that new browser (cough ActiveX, Java, Flash, obsolete js etc) * roll it incrementally to the ten or hundred of thousands of workstation
That is a 12-18 months project and you don't do it "just" to upgrade a browser that is however working fine for your business applications.
In the end the IT managers cant do it as easily as they would want due to time/cost. I got your point for sure, and I am pretty sure web compatibility has forced them to update their browser already, they are just lagging by a few years.
However, there's two other groups who would be annoyed/confused by such banners:
- Parents/grandparents who got their Windows XP laptop 12 years ago and
don't know how to upgrade--nor do they care, as long as they can check their e-mail and print pictures :)
- People in lower-income locales for whom upgrading is a cost-prohibitive
endeavor
-Chad
I am pretty sure the popup would be annoying to a lot of users. Hopefully when most websites no more work in their browser, they would eventually switch to a new computer. But that can take a decade+ to achieve :-(
If we crafted nice tutorials as to how to install and use the few browsers we offer, that might help. Chrome and Firefox most probably already have such tutorials for all the OSes they support.