There are two very different versions of Liberation Sans, which makes testing somewhat complicated. Liberation Sans 1.0 has bad kerning and little support for extended Unicode. Liberation Sans 2.0 has great kerning and implements support for a lot more glyphs, but not always correctly. The version I used for the tests was 2.0, but according to robla, a lot of Linux distros have 1.0 (which might be a problem due to the bad kerning).
I agree that Arimo should probably have the same style score as Liberation Sans. It has a very small installation base, but might still be worth considering for inclusion.
Ryan Kaldari
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.orgwrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
One number covering all three.
One thing I wonder about is the difference in style score for Arimo (5) and Liberation Sans (10). Apparently the only difference between the two is the hinting.
Something this subjective could probably do with a much more diverse sample.
Do you mean a more diverse sample of fonts, a more diverse sample of
text,
or a more diverse sample of evaluators?
Evaluators.
You can see a sample from the technical tests in the file attached to
this
bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072095
Sorry I don't have more documentation for that.
Interesting.
In some local testing, it seems that Liberation Sans (1.07.3) isn't actually being used for any of the diacritics on [[en:User:Kaldari/Font_test]]. If I change the font-family to "'Liberation Sans', 'Unicode BMP Fallback SIL', 'sans-serif'" and preview I get fallback characters on top of all the 'g's.
OTOH, Liberation Sans with DejaVu Sans as a fallback (default sans-serif on my system) does better than your screenshot. Oddly, using Arimo as a fallback doesn't work very well.
I haven't tested on different backends yet, but that's what part of what
I
was talking with Rob about today. Apparently the font hinting can cause significantly different rendering quality on different operating systems. Any help assessing this would be appreciated.
If you tell me what exactly you want screenshots of, I can make screenshots for all the fonts on your list except Helvetica and Helvetica Neue with Debian's font renderer, in Firefox (really Iceweasel) and Chromium.
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