On Wednesday 11 June 2003 19:10, Jason Richey wrote:
This discussion is making my head spin... Let me see if I can get the basics in order for myself (please, let me know if I don't have it right):
- Everyone basically agrees that the text (not including quotes, which I don't intend to discuss here) of Wikipedia is okay, even if the text refers to an image that is fair use.
yes.
- Everyone agrees that The en Wikipedia has some images that we are legally allowed to use (on the website) under fair use assuming that we don't claim they are GFDL.
legally to use wrt "fair use": yes. But illegal to use because we are mixing GFDL and non-free content which is forbidden by GFDL. Note: Erik does not agree with this interpretation of GFDL.
- Most everyone agrees that there is little chance that we can get the copyright holders of every image to switch to a GFDL license. This said, some people say that we can't distribute the images with the GFDL products, as it would violate the license.
yes.
- Most everyone has decided what they think, and will argue his/her opinion until the cows come home (and then some).
yes ;-)
If I understand correctly, the problem is most evident when we consider printed formats (like grandma's encyclopedia). I don't think that anyone has argued that we can distribute fair use images if we go to a printed (combined) work. So, fair use images should not be in a printed version.
well, they shouldn't be in Wikipedia at all IMHO, but you are right with saying that a printed version is not allowed using "fair use" images.
best regards, Marco