2008/12/4 Aryeh Gregor Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com:
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
With a JS hack I had my tool integrated to the site. The AJAX calls went to the toolserver, but as far as the users could see it was running on the site. No one cared: It didn't produce useful results because of how categories are used, and when I suggested changing people just waved their arms at me "just make it walk the tree".
What was the interface like (how noticeable/obtrusive), how long was it up, and why did it get removed? You're certainly going to need a critical mass of people who know about it and use it before there will be any effect.
Evidently at least two of us who were drooling for this feature failed to become aware of it ...
And enabling it on all wikis at once would likely help, too: if Germans get used to using it on dewiki and find it useful, they'll be more likely to push for it to be made useful on Commons.
oooooooooh. How to hack the Wikimedia social structure.
(mind you, I'll believe it's a conclusive solution when flagged revs hit en:wp.)
In the end, all of these objections are really irrelevant to the technical issues here. The fact of the matter is that category intersection is widely supported in other major software products (in the form of tag intersection), it's something that a lot of people want, and so it would be good if it were in the core software. How fully various specific communities would want to use it is up to them -- that some communities might never choose to use a particular feature doesn't mean that it shouldn't be developed (cf. FlaggedRevs, etc.).
Indeed.
Greg, can your thingummy please be switched on again and publicised as such on commons-l, if that's not impossible?
- d.