Thomas R. Koll wrote:
Toby Bartels wrote:
I'm not saying that I oppose your idea completely. But in the case of the experienced user on [[de:]], I would suggest that this user be given back ''all'' sysop rights, but only ''use'' SQL. Perhaps this is a problem for some reason -- maybe other Wikipedians complained about this user as a sysop?
But he doesn't want to be a full sysop, don't know his excact reasons. He was but gave his rights back a few months ago.
Many Wikipedians (mostly in places other than this mailing list) are concerned about hierarchy and levels of access/power/authority, so it will be controversial to make the hierarchy more complicated. Also it's a Bad Thing in general to complicate code more than necessary. So my impulse is still to tell this guy «We don't mind if you're a sysop and you only use your SQL powers, and it's painless, so just do that.».
But if there is a real need to complicate the hierarchy and the code ... well, I won't make any more fuss about it.
-- Toby
(By the way, you didn't answer my questions. That's OK, as long as you know that you didn't answer them! ^_^)
(Uhh, what was the question again?)
They were:
What is "the sysop-job"?
and:
Do sysops on [[de:]] have to do chores?
It may be best just to go back to the original for context: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2004-January/007609.html. (And it's OK to ignore these specific questions now that we've gone on, unless you think think that they're still relevant. So this whole thing is a digression. ^_^)