"Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of cross-listing conversations"
This is something we would love to address in our organization. Between email, chat, multiple wiki discussion/Flow pages, and issue trackers (like Phabricator/GitHub/GitLab), it's difficult to ensure everyone is included in the conversation and to prevent repetition across multiple conversations.
One approach we use in our wikis at NASA is to tag articles as "Related to" other articles. Then we can have a query on each page showing everything that is tagged as "Related to {{PAGENAME}}". We use Semantic MediaWiki for this, but I'm sure many other approaches could provide similar functionality. If Flow (or even core MW) could allow for a section of a page to be tagged as "Related to" other articles, you could somewhat automate linking. This would probably help people discover related conversations.
Another idea I'll throw out there is something we have submitted to a few grant proposals, called Wiki Conversations [1]. Basically, a tool allowing users to "CC" a wiki, so the content is then "wikified" and linked to related articles. So conversations like this one could be linked to the Flow and Echo discussion pages.
Daren
[1] https://youtu.be/VacHe2f1hWA
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, we lack efficient and effective ways of cross-listing conversations, which might be another use case for which the Collaboration team might engineer some solutions, possibly involving Echo and/or Flow. (:
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Rachel diCerbo rdicerb@wikimedia.org wrote:
I wonder if the most effective place to have and follow conversations
about
a product are on that product's page, rather than Lila's Talk page or WM-L.
The main page to talk about Echo notifications overall is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Echo_(Notifications)
A particular problem is that that page is Flowized and I know that many users prefer original Talk pages - but the RfC page allows for Talk page format. It's here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Cross-wiki_notifica...
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on
Lila's
talk page on Meta. Would you like to join the conversation there? The discussion there might get more staff attention than Wikimedia-l. (I
hear
a
number of staff avoid Wikimedia-l because they find the tone to be
hostile
and/or because the volume is more than they can handle.)
You really think the staff that dont follow wikimedia-l are going to
follow
lila's talk page?
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