2010/10/15 Aryeh Gregor Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com:
But, to reiterate, I think most of the problem will disappear when we have regular code deployment again. At this point, it's best to focus solely on that and forget about all other complaints. If problems linger for long after everyone's code is getting deployed on a regular basis, we can talk about that then, and I think everyone will be talking on much more amicable basis.
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Let's focus on the code review situation and shelf this whole "staff/volunteer/community collaboration" discussion for a while. And by that, I also mean trying to keep references to it to a minimum and being less like the lines of "see? THIS is what's wrong with the staff folks" when something goes bad, something I've been hearing to an increasing degree lately (that's what the original post was arguing against). Like Trevor says, let's be nice to each other and be patient while the code review and deployment situation gets fixed.
This'll probably take months, so I know I'm asking for quite a bit of patience here. But I believe Aryeh is right that regular code deployments will cure most of the problems we've been discussing, and I'm willing to bet on that by putting my disagreements with other people regarding this topic aside for the next few months, until we've gotten back to regular code deployment, at which point we can re-evaluate. My understanding is that Aryeh is also doing that, and I call upon you all to join us.
Roan Kattouw (Catrope)