Also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67888 needs to be fixed so that people have some chance to test if their tools works with websocket at least few months before switch to it
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
BTW do you have any use data or feedback from people who switched from IRC to this one? Based on what you decided you are going to phase it out? I bet my shoes when you turn of IRC feed, half of wikipedia will break and other half will start blaming all devs here on wikitech-l for breaking everything.
You really should do some decent research before. I have no problem with deploying new technologies, but phasing out old working ones that everyone uses is definitely not an improvement to me. Just go to en.wikipedia on IRC feed and have a look on number of users. They all will get broken once you shut it off
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
right now it seems to me worse in many points:
- it requires more traffic (slower and ineffective)
- it requires some extra libraries that enlarge dependency tree
- protocol itself is extra complicated and unflexible compared to IRC,
which can be programmed in few minutes
what's the point in replacing one technology with worse one and forcing everyone to use it?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr wrote:
Le 05/05/2014 11:29, Petr Bena a écrit :
Given the current specifications I can only support this change as long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC is IMHO, as much as evil it looks, more suitable for this than WebSockets.
I am not saying that IRC is suitable for this and I know that people really wanted to get rid of it or replace it with something better, but I just can't see how is this better.
IRC will be phased out entirely and related code in MediaWiki entirely removed if it is not of any other use.
I am not sure what is the communication / migration plan for RCStream but you should really start looking at it right now.
-- Antoine "hashar" Musso
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