On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The reason was so that they wouldn't be an obvious vandal magnet.
Right, but they should be an obvious list of pages to watch too. Maybe we could highlight unwatched pages on RC, or non-actively-watched pages, if it can be done without Domas stabbing us. :)
You may wish to do this per community, if you want to change it.
I'm suggesting a change to the software defaults -- individual communities can ask for it to be changed back, or a Wikimedia default could be set (although I don't see why the latter would be necessary).
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Happy-melon happy-melon@live.com wrote:
Changing things on a whim and then requiring communities to build a consensus **to change them back** is not how we generally approach site configuration.
It is how we do it in my experience. We don't usually consult communities for global feature changes. The default was chosen by dev fiat at some point in the past anyway, so dev fiat may as well be good enough to change it.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Happy-melon happy-melon@live.com wrote:
There are 1,879,521 unwatched mainspace pages on enwiki. It may be empty on smaller projects, but it certainly isn't on the larger ones.
In light of that, maybe it would be a better idea to only release this if we can, e.g., highlight non-actively-watched pages on RC. Maybe add a page_last_watch column, and update it to the current timestamp every time a user watching that page views their watchlist. That might be too much work, though.