On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:42 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
*Precisely*. This is why the new (and it is new) demand to trash the present category tree before *possibly* implementing a category intersection feature is, in practical terms, indistinguishable from sheer contemptuous obstructionism.
Nobody "demanded" this except possibly Daniel Schwen, who has never even committed anything to SVN outside of WikiMiniAtlas, let alone representing the opinion of The Developers. If you are incapable of distinguishing the personal opinion of a random person on this list from "demands" by "the developers", maybe you should unsubscribe and save everyone the trouble. That way you'll avoid annoying the developers by posting uninformed and obnoxious things like this, and avoid confusing non-developers by forwarding them irrelevant or incomprehensible wikitech-l posts out of context (and this is not the first time you've done that).
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Daniel Schwen lists@schwen.de wrote:
I never demanded that. Geez. What I want is the commons community pledges support for a change of the categorization system. Putting intersection in the interface before they do is a _waste of time_. I'm asking for them to show the _tiniest_ sign of support. The programmers have already bent over backwards (including me with my own intersection tool)
Since when do we write features only for Commons? Some wikis already have atomic categories -- e.g., http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Frau. It would be a useful feature to any number of users regardless of what Commons does or does not do. In fact, it would be useful to Commons too even without atomic categorization, just not as useful as it could be.
On the other hand, it's thoroughly unreasonable to expect any wiki to change how they do things based on technologies that have been talked about for years and may or may not materialize in the foreseeable future. No, stuff on the toolserver that isn't integrated into the interface (and doesn't have a very nice interface itself) doesn't count.