On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Just for the record, anyone at administrator level or higher has IPBE built into their tools (I believe on all projects), so they can edit/administer/checkuser/etc using Tor.
But given that over 95% of anything that comes through an unblocked Tor node onto English Wikipedia is either spam or vandalism, I can't support allowing unbridled Tor editing on at least that project.
Well, we don't allow "unbridled" anything; our administrators litter the IP address universe and logged-in users alike with blocks constantly. :)
I would strongly recommend a saner signup/account moderation system for "less trusted" network origins such as Tor nodes, though. The key is that you have to actually allow creating an account from a Tor node in the first place, or you're limited to people who live in "free internet" countries or have the money or clout to go abroad to create their accounts...
-- brion
Well yes, such a system would be nice to have, but as discussed previously on this list, it's a hard problem to solve ("Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?", http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/323006 ). Basically, the problem is that all the existing proposals would at best provide a substitute for autoblocks, but not for Checkuser.
Also, there is already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_to_users_using_Tor#Need_an_ac... (although I don't know how frequently/successfully it's being used currently)