Hoi, There is another reason why such templates might be reconsidered. The complexity has become such that it become increasingly difficult to find people who still understand it. The technical sophistication needed has become such that it is beyond many advanced users of MediaWiki. This in itself is a problem because it also raises the threshold for starting Wikimedians. Thanks, GerardM
On 10/25/07, RLS evendell@gmail.com wrote:
jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com wrote:
Yep. Since Wikimedia publishes the templates and the dumps, the fixing needs to happen at the source -- the English Wikipedia. Some sort of constraint should be placed into MediaWiki to limit the call depth and complexity for some of these templates by refusing to save changes for templates which are so obviously broken.
Thing is, they're not "broken" on en.wikipedia.org. The WMF hardware is capable of rendering these pages in a reasonable amount of time, ~12s for me for either [[United States]] and [[Antarctica]], including download time for the images etc. I agree that's higher than most pages, but I wouldn't call it "broken."
Broken is relative, and I don't see why the English Wikipedia needs to be crippled because your hardware, as a downstream user, isn't capable of matching the performance of the Foundation's hardware.
--en.wp Darkwind
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