On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
Jeremy, uncheck the microphone and camera buttons after selecting 'computer' and before selecting 'join'.
right, I saw those.
the problem is that if you have Chrome set to disallow websites from using your Mic/Camera then you can't get that far. it just gets stuck at requiring you to allow access.
(to clarify, I was using the service as a guest, I don't have an account.)
I'm happy to help with more STR if needed.
Heh.... ok that would be something to report upstream yes. :)
:)
so, do I open my own support ticket? I guess I'll wait a bit to see if someone knows whether or not we have a relationship with them and they want to file for me? (best guess would be OIT?)
Not relevant to a lot of folks doing straightforward video conferencing so that's probably why it's not already working,
sure, I don't know much about them, I just heard of the service for the first time today. I think.
but probably relevant to our usage for presentations with large audiences.
yeah, that was my point.
we have audiences that have more than average concerns about privacy. but also * we shouldn't make it hard for people to enforce least privilege (and we shouldn't be getting people into the habit of clicking allow unnecessarily): don't allow access to camera if you're not going to use the camera. and * some people may want to watch a presentation in their pajamas, etc. :)
(When there's a YouTube live stream that's at least watchable on most browsers, but then you can't participate in the direct chat.)
yeah.
actually, if we do have a relationship with them then I wonder if this is available for others to use too? I know some other Wikimedia meetings where this was an issue. at first glance, doesn't look like they publish prices or offer a free tier; they say that the free trial lasts 14 days.
I did some searching and found projects related to bluejeans and they offer various auxiliary software packages (e.g. browser plugins and the relay) for download directly from the bluejeans site. but no sign of source or license (or even statement that they are proprietary). maybe someone else lurking has the answer?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
Unfortunately, if you choose computer and aren't using Chrome,[1] you have to install a browser plugin that people I trust say is not secure.
[1]: Some people have said that it also works with Chromium installed from Ubuntu, but last time I tried it only pretends to work[2] for Chromium installed from Debian. [2]: "Pretends to work" meaning it looks like it joined but you don't actually get any audio or video.
ugh, another maybe blocker.
(I was using Google branded Chrome so didn't run into any of that yet)
-Jeremy