Erik Moeller schreef op 2015/03/17 om 1:39:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Kevin Wayne Williams kwwilliams@kwwilliams.com wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any particular user demand to adopt Flow, so there's no reason to believe it will gain any more traction than LQT ever did.
There was significant community interest and momentum behind LQT including various votes to enable it [1], and there is significant interest in Flow now [2]. The main thing that prevented LQT from wider adoption was not lack of community interest, it was our decision to put the project on hold due to both major architectural concerns and resource constraints at the time. We've committed to providing an upgrade path, and this is our follow-through to that commitment.
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As for inconsistency and fragmentation of mediawiki.org, if anything, the conversion of LQT pages on mediawiki.org will create greater consistency as we're already using Flow on Beta Features talk pages ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Content_translation is a nice example of a feedback page with lots of continuous and substantive comments from experienced users).
I'm not arguing that nuking LQT isn't a good idea: that most certainly is. What I object to is this apparent intent to create two tiers of users: one tier that knows how to use the software and another tier that gets accustomed to a partially functional "easy" layer that provides no experience or training in how to maintain the actual project content, with no apparent bridge between the two. Between VE and LQT, newbies get provided with no experience in handling the easy cases of editing until they hit something that the simple tools can't handle, at which time they are suddenly faced with a wall of text that they have no experience in dissecting, parsing, and understanding and are expected to make a change in one of the hard parts. Much better to get them gradually accustomed to wikitext by performing small tasks than to just toss them in the deep end after their crutches break. Yes, there are at least five mixed metaphors in that last sentence, buy you get the drift.
KWW