(Sorry if this is a double post, I'm getting confused ;-p) Jonathan, I learned something new today about URL referers! I didn't realize that they were logged to the server in a public manner. In that case, I suppose maintaining Template:Derefer as it is -- using an external service -- is the best option.
Thanks, folks, and sorry for the trouble :-) --Iamunknown ( User_talk:Iamunknown )
On 8/28/07, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i.yu@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/28/07, WikipediaEditor-Iamunknown iamunknown@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/28/07, Jonathan Yu jonathan.i.yu@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps this will help: http://anonym.to/?
It's a little bit of an inconvenience to have to copy and paste links into the address bar...
On 8/28/07, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/28/07, WikipediaEditor-Iamunknown iamunknown@gmail.com wrote:
So my question is: Would it be possible to set up and host such a page on the Wikipedia servers?
Probably. But the real question here is not whether such a thing is possible but whether it is desirable, which is not a question which is really within the scope of this list.
-- Stephen Bain
Jonathan: I'm not sure I understand. Are you referring to my links in this e-mail, or to the "dereferred" links? If the former, wikilinking is force of habit. :P If the latter, no one has to copy and paste links into the address bar. They merely click a link, are taken to a page which is not the actual target URL, which then redirects them automatically to the target URL (and in the process stripping the HTTP request of any referring URL data).
I was referring to the latter point -- if Wikipedia needs links that are "dereferred" - I suggest using a service like anonym.to, because that service is probably used by many sites and thus more difficult to block. If I am understanding the original e-mail correctly, they proposed a Wikipedia page to do "dereferring" - but the HTTP-Referer that would show up in the logs would be http://wikipedia.org, correct?
Whereas, with anonym.to, they wouldn't even be able to tell it originally came from Wikipedia...
Stephen: Yes, I suppose that setting up the page would be trivially easy ... I didn't realize that there might be objections to setting it up. The template, Template:Derefer, has been around for more than a year now, but it isn't widely publicized.
I guess a more relevant question than "Can you do this?" is: Under what conditions will you [the developers] set up this page? After a clause is proposed at Wikipedia:External_links, advertised at the village pump, etc.?
Thanks, --Iamunknown ( User_talk:Iamunknown )
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