Andrew Garrett hett schreven:
I'm not entirely sure why you think that the technical staff need to report operational minutiae to you.
Cause it's their job to serve the community. And they haven't served a big part of the community since ten months in regard to Lucene. They don't need to report to _me_ but to the community.
If you wanted to know the status of getting Lucene 2.1 on small projects, perhaps it would be prudent to send a mailing list post asking what the status was, rather than a rant about "discrimination" against smaller projects.
I didn't "rant" and I didn't use the word "discrimination". I only used it in quotation marks after somebody else misinterpreted my words in that way. That misinterpretation occurred on foundation-l (where this thread was forwarded to [not by me]), so if you don't read foundation-l you couldn't know about that. My original post only contained "I feel a bit neglected" and "It seems, we are very low at the priority list". That's far from ranting. It's rather a "fact" after ten months.
If you make an explicit request for information, there's no reason to suspect it won't be answered in a reasonable amount of time. If you lecture people about ignoring small projects, and bury your questions in that lecture, you are less likely to get a response.
It isn't that the technical staff don't care, it's just that Lucene 2.1 on smaller projects is one of a billion other things that tech staff need to work on, and without minimising the importance of other languages to Wikipedia's core mission, some quick stats show that about 70-80% of all hits come in English, German and French (totally arbitrary, tainted with Western selection bias, three big languages).
That's basically "Small projects are no priority", isn't it?
It should also be noted that, of those staff, only Brion, Tim, Rob, Mark, and to an extent Tomasz are involved in these sorts of operations matters. The rest are software developers.
Therefore, while you should, by all means, request information as to the status of certain operations things like this -- but posting outraged lectures on the importance of small languages isn't at all productive. You should split the problem up into its constituent problems, which are all separate (the Toolserver, Lucene, and query pages on small wikis), and try to have each dealt with by itself, rather than trying to lump it all together as a laundry list of complaints. You will have much better success in achieving your aims if you present your problems in this way.
Andrew Garrett
"outraged lectures" Where did I give outraged lectures? I'm puzzled. I'm really are. And I don't know what the purpose of "splitting up" the problems would be. If Brion, Tim, Rob, Mark, and Tomasz do not read the list, that will make no difference. If they do, they can answer in response to this post:
Is it correct, that the delay in rolling out LuceneSearch on all wikis is due to RAM shortage? If so, is additional RAM ordered or when will it be ordered? If it is ordered, when will it be installed and when will the newest version of Lucene go live on all wikis? If it is not yet ordered, when will it be ordered, what is the expected time frame until Lucene will be fully active on all projects? If RAM is not the reason for the delay, what is the reason?
Will it be possible to activate regular updates for all special pages on smaller wikis? If so, when will this happen? If not, what's the reason?
Marcus Buck