On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:50 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
It would be nice if you'd bothered to make it clear that Daniel's opinion didn't count. Else your tacit acceptance is the only message being sent.
*Nothing* said here is a "message being sent" to anyone other than developers and sysadmins. This is not a medium for official dev announcements to the larger world. If something actually needs to be announced to the projects, it will be announced to the projects, such as by global site notices or such. Taking it upon yourself to broadcast what's said here to the larger world is not useful, because what's said here is not targeted to the larger world.
If you were actually a developer or followed MediaWiki development closely, you would understand perfectly well that Daniel Schwen's opinion doesn't count for anything in this particular case. He is not in a position to say "we won't do X", because he can't stop anyone else from doing it (and nor can most developers). CCing it to third parties as though it were an authoritative statement by The Developers is confusing and irresponsible.
Of course I'm going to cc the post to the list for the project the matter concerns. It's ridiculous not to when a demand is being made of said project.
No demand *was* being made of the project, not by anyone who had any say. (No offense to Daniel -- if I said the same thing, my opinion wouldn't have any weight either.) If you don't understand that, then you don't know what you're reading here, and you should stop acting like you do.
Since you're speaking with more authority - what are the actual next steps to make this a happener?
The same steps as for every other possible feature that anyone would want. Someone needs to implement the feature, commit it or get it committed, and address any objections that arise to avoid having it reverted or disabled. This includes jumping through any hoops that come up along the way -- and *nobody* knows what those are in advance. It looks like Neil Harris will be doing this over the next few months, with any luck, for this particular feature.