[Wikitech-l] Votes for deletion (was: Page collapsing/expanding)

I don't understand what's so hard about making VfD usable.

It is clear that some people want a short page with a list of links, which all go to Talk pages where the deletion is discussed, while other people want everything on one huge page.

So why not provide both of these pages?

The huge page can easily be created/administered by making use of the next version's ability to transclude pages from any namespace.

So, [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]] would look like this:

* [[Page name]] ([[Talk:Page name/delete|talk]]) * [[Asdfsdfsdf]] ([[Talk:Asdfsdfsdf/delete|talk]]) * [[Bush is gay]] ([[Talk:Bush is gay/delete|talk]]) * [[User:Idiot/Wikisex]] ([[User talk:Idiot/Wikisex/delete|talk]])

and [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (full)]] would look like this:

== [[Page name]] == {{Talk:Page name/delete}} == [[Asdfsdfsdf]] == {{Talk:Asdfsdfsdf/delete}} == [[Bush is gay]] == {{Talk:Bush is gay/delete}} == [[User:Idiot/Wikisex]] == {{User talk:Idiot/Wikisex/delete}}

Compared to the problems we have with our current design, the problem of keeping the two versions in sync seems marginal, and if someone cares enough, they can write a feature to automate it anyway.

Timwi