On 7 mrt. 2014, at 12:27, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items refer to "Creators" or "Institutions" they will refer to Wikidata proper.
This will replace much if not most of how information is stored about media files.
Pretty much almost everything will be impacted and that is what I expect to be reflected in considerations now because the alternative is that much of it will need to be revisited on a massive scale. Thanks, GerardM
This is not mutual exclusive.
1: You said it "much, if not most"
Neither much, nor most == all
2: The output api is very important here, and the output API won't/doesn't really care about where the data is coming from.
3: Much of this has to do with data entry and creating links. Wether you couple text, wikitext or an ID, it doesn't really matter that much. you still need the software to make it accessible, usable and understandable during the upload process or the 'maintenance' process. The view != data model
4: You should not make too much interteam commitments if you aren't directly interacting. Be agile, change plans as you go to find the best solution if needed. Be informed sure, but don't wait.
My point is YES, wikidata is important and it overlaps with some aspects of these goals, but it's just one part of the userstory, and it's the part the general user will care least about, and the part that is probably easiest to replace (since it's backend facing).
DJ
On 7 March 2014 12:19, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 11:50 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for
inclusion
in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are discussing. Chances are that much of what you come up with now will be obsolete in a few months time or even worse make the development of the inclusion of Wikidata into Commons even harder.
I find it odd that Wikidata is not mentioned at all in this overview.
Please elaborate where / in which specific areas you would have expected to see Wikidata being mentioned in Gergo's overview, as I cannot interpret the "consequently" in your statement yet.
andre
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