Magnus Manske wrote:
Gerard Meijssen schrieb:
Hoi, At this moment in time Erik Moeller is working on Wikidata and this in turn will enable the "Ultimate Wiktionary" and a functional Wikispecies... This system is not based on templates but it uses a database to store information. What is needed for an enhanced Wiktionary functionality is a bit more than flat file functionality. If I understand well what you propose, I do not see what the added value of your proposal is given that Wikidata is being developped.
At the very least, it would make it easier to fill wikidata tables from existing data.
This is only true if the scheme you talk about already exists. At this moment you request some comments.... I do not understand how your proposal adds value to our projects.
One of the things your proposed functionality does not provide is a potential to localise the information or use information in more than one project or language.
Information could be queried by special pages, but no, there's no central repository like wikidata. It would be more for simple, local issues. Have a list of people in wikidata central? Great. Have a list of people in the German wikipedia? I'd have to either update wikidata on every edit in de.wikipedia, or check wikidata and then de.wikipedia again, to see which people articles actually exist here. Sounds like an unnecessary step to me, and considering server load, this is a bad thing ;-)
Hoi, The current server load is a problem at this moment in time. This is a problem that needs to be solved and that propably will be solved. When considering how things could work it is not a strong argument. Take the Commons pictures, it is one of the Wikimedia success stories and, it is exactly the scheme that you describe as being something we do not want ..
So when you want sharable data between the different projects, you can use Wikidata. It does not mean that you cannot edit its content. The great idea of shared data is that you benefit from the work done in other projects. This sharing of data, information and the collobaration of our effort is what makes our projects so amazingly great. Concentrating on improving information in one project is great up to a point. It would be so more cool if much of this effort is made available to all projects ..
One example of this convergence of effort and better functionality can be found in http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_Ultimate_Wiktionary_for_Commons This describes how you can use the Ultimate Wiktionary for the localisation of keywords for Commons. This will allow an eight year old kid to enter кінь and it will find pictures with horses on it.
Now to find people to work on these kinds of functionality .. :)
Thanks, GerardM