On 2 September 2010 17:40, Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw@gmail.com wrote:
2010/9/3 Aryeh Gregor Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.com:
- Shut down the secret staff IRC channel. Development discussion can
take place in #mediawiki, ops in #wikimedia-tech, other stuff in #wikimedia or whatever. If users interfere with ops' discussions sometimes in #wikimedia-tech during outages or such, set all sysadmins +v and set the channel +m as necessary. That's worked in the past.
You're assuming that development discussions actually take place in these channels, which is not the case. We mostly use them for chit-chat and private or office-related things. Questions like "how should I design X in my code" very rarely show up in these channels, and I don't think anyone would have a problem with being more conscious about this and moving to a public place for such a discussion.
I don't think he is making that assumption, lots of chit-chat happens on any channel — it makes us feel left out if you have a special one (humans are really bad at the jealousy thing). What "private or office-related" things are there that you can't share with developers?
Conrad