Thanks for the replies.
Another thought: I searched for the attachment icon. I found it, but I
am
not sure that it would be easy to find for all users. I might be subjective, thought, because I upload a lot of screenshots and mileage
may
vary for other users.
Maybe you and me are getting old? ;) Note that, strictly speaking, users are not "attaching" (clip metaphore) but uploading a file that can be used anywhere and linking it to the description / comment, all at once. The tooltip says "Upload File" and you see an "up" arrow in a cloud. This is
in
fact a character from Awesome Font, so if you find a better alternative at https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ we can propose it upstream.
Sorry for being unclear.
I meant not so much the appearance of the icon, but the fact that it is so small and that it appears on a toolbar with quite a lot of other small icons. If a user knows that such an icon is supposed to be there, it's possible that the user will find it, but a new user may need a separate explanation.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2014-08-27 19:19 GMT+03:00 Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org:
Hi,
On Wednesday, August 27, 2014, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
Thoughts along the way:
== One ==
http://fab.wmflabs.org/maniphest/task/create/ (imagine that the
"Points"
field is not there).
What if I don't have this link?
We still have to define the content of the homepage, so there. More about the content of the soon-to-become homepage at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T12
See also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_a_task
I tried click the + at the top of the screen. This gave me a menu that says:
Create New: Maniphest Task Pholio Mock Paste
Now it says
Create New: Task Mockup Paste
(Come to think of it, I guess that Paste is kinda like Pastebin, but that's because I'm a developer.)
Also like Copy&Paste, a term most users landing in that page will be familiar with. But anyway, if you clicked that button because you wanted to create a task, "Create New: Task" is a clear choice now.
*However*, since it is so similar to email, it's all the more confusing when you get to the details. In email, the usual order of fields is....
But this is not an email interface. It is a task creation interface. If you want to create a task, "Title" is a clear concept, "CC" is probably clear as well (and if not, leaving it empty is just fine), the fact that tasks are classified into "Projects" is a familiar concept too (and if not, you can also leave it blank), and "Description" doesn't need any explanation.
you must take into account that lots of people don't bother reading field labels
and
get very confused.
Only Title and Description accept free text, so getting it wrong is actually somewhat difficult. :) I think this is quite of a low barrier for any English speaking user of MediaWiki of Wikimedia sites. Even the "English speaking" part can be improved in the future (but I'm digressing here).
== Three ==
I tried typing "MediaWiki" in projects and got an auto-completion with an umbrella icon. "Why umbrella?", I thought. And then I got it :)
Good! :)
The list of projects we have currently in fab.wmflabs.org is quite random (i.e. you were lucky to find a "MediaWiki" project, created just for testing purposes long time ago). By Day 1 we will have a full list of real projects, type-ahead should offer sensible results, and icons of projects will follow a consistent guideline.
== Four == Another thought: I searched for the attachment icon. I found it, but I am not sure that it would be easy to find for all users. I might be subjective, thought, because I upload a lot of screenshots and mileage
may
vary for other users.
Maybe you and me are getting old? ;) Note that, strictly speaking, users are not "attaching" (clip metaphore) but uploading a file that can be used anywhere and linking it to the description / comment, all at once. The tooltip says "Upload File" and you see an "up" arrow in a cloud. This is in fact a character from Awesome Font, so if you find a better alternative at https://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ we can propose it upstream.
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